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TopicIf you don't think baby it's Cold outside is rapey then listen to it with the
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12/21/18 9:18:24 PM
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Mead posted...
Listen to the song the and you can tell the girl likes the guy and actually wants to stay


That depends entirely on the performance. As the lyrics are written, it's completely possible to play it as her resistance being beaten down. It's also completely possible to play it as her being coy and playful. What you end up with is entirely a matter of how the performers choose to portray it. Generally, people performing it go for the fun, playful end of things, because that's a whole lot more enjoyable to listen to, but that doesn't mean it can't go the other way.

Mead posted...
People are really reaching by trying to turn it into something gross


It's mostly that "'No' doesn't mean 'convince me'" is a pretty significant element of the push for a better understanding of consent, and one of the more nuanced ones that people struggle with. The song very much depicts her saying "no" as actually being "convince me," so it's pretty reasonable that people would take issue with it being unquestioningly included in popular culture, even if more nuanced analysis reveals that this specific case isn't necessarily an example of undue pressure.

Again, I think deciding to never broadcast it again is a bit much, but having this dialog is only a good thing.
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