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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1323
Haste_2
12/18/18 4:12:48 AM
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7. Zelda's! I didn't use anything Zelda did after Snake. I looked at her results within her division, where she was much more 'normal', and found that her results against Ramza, Aeris, Fox, and to a lesser extent Jill, were pretty consistent (and those characters themselves were internally consistent as well).

Very good. I chose Fox as the constant when measuring Zelda and her division.

I decided to use those - her indirect 39% or whatever against Link is simply stronger than the results she put up before. So she ends up lower than Mario and Cloud in the stats but if you put Zelda against them Round 1, I don't think she competes. Snake was adjusted through Zelda's results in her division. As for what Zelda's (and by association, Snake's) final indirect non-bandwagon result against Link was derived by...I don't really remember. It involved a lot of cross-referencing. Aside from Ramza/Aeris/Fox/Jill, I think Lloyd Irving got in on the action too?

I agree that Zelda can't compete with Cloud in a normal situation. However, I disagree in exactly when you say she behaved abnormally. You set the cut off between her normal self and her boosted self as right after the Snake/Zelda match. I think the cut off point was between the regular bracket and the legends bracket.

I don't think Zelda changed much during the actual legends bracket. Yeah, you could say she was able to rSFF Mario and gain a % or two, but she did nothing special against Sonic, the very round after she pulled the upset on Snake. Yeah, maybe Zelda would have a reason to bandwagon more after she beat Mario, but then she got killed by Link the next round and not really have a big reason to maintain it in her match against Cloud.

8. Sonic and Auron made their divisions look bad. I used Sonic's result against Zelda instead of Snake, which bumped him up (and put his division more in line with what it should be), but Sonic himself still looks bad. Shrug.

This is another place where my opinion differs. There's only one match that Auron looked bad: His match against Geralt. Otherwise, Auron looked like his normal self, only slightly weaker. When basing Snake off of Zelda in the main (non-legends) bracket, then yes, of course it's going to make Auron's division and Sonic look bad.

I stated earlier that I believe that Snake shouldn't be measured from Zelda in the main bracket. Snake is better measured through the Zelda in the legends bracket, in my opinion. Yeah, it's not ideal, but I do think it's more accurate than the former. And Zelda, in the legends bracket, I measure through Cloud. This, of course, puts Snake near Cloud. And Sonic's division now looks more reasonable compared to the divisions in the top half of the bracket. (and Sonic really should be at 37.61% given how good

Now.... I am aware of one MAJOR contradiction that gets exposed when measuring Snake and Zelda in this manner: Snake vs. Samus. The problem here is that if you assume Snake vs. Samus is accurate, and put Snake near Cloud's level, this puts Samus pretty high... which is fine, I suppose. But the REAL issue is that Tifa's division is now ridiculously overrated and Luigi's now projected to compete with Crono or Pikachu. Not good at all.
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