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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1323
Haste_2
12/18/18 4:11:07 AM
#154:


I would probably put Ganondorf at 45% on Mega Man. 44% on Mega Man means that Ganondorf is weaker than Yoshi, and I would never pull the trigger on Yoshi in a Ganondorf/Yoshi match. I would probably take Bowser over Ganondorf, but not Yoshi.

2. Ganondorf/Mega Man is a fraud result. The pic disadvantage was nuts. It makes Vivi, Leon Kennedy, Tidus, and Dante all look extremely bad. For that Division, I ended up doing Yuna's and Bowser's divisions first (two of the easiest to do outside of Phoenix Wright/Kirby), then did two comparisons: one where I set Tidus equal to Yuna and one where I set Ganondorf equal to Bowser. Think I took the middle ground of those but both comparisons ended up with very similar stats.

Noted. I chose 44% because Luigi gained about 4% on Ganondorf in the 2007 contest when Ganondorf got his Bacondorf pic in 2007, plus my adjustment is intentionally a little bit conservative. Of course, NES Bacondorf is probably even more hurtful than SNES Bacondorf, so I suppose 45% on Mega Man is better. Yoshi beating Ganondorf wouldn't surprise me, though, after proving he's on par with Bowser.

1. Division 2 and 3 needed no adjustments and were really easy to make because there weren't many SFF matches in the matches the division winners had in the Legends bracket.

Fine with me.

3. Kirby messed up his whole side of the division. I'm not buying that Ness 60-40s Ike, so I set Ike's relation to Ness equal to his relation to Ness via 2010 and called it a day. For Kirby I went back and checked some results, found some stuff that indicated he was about even to Bowser indirectly (his match against Terra being the biggest indicator), then set him slightly under Bowser and called it a day.

I just set Kirby equal to Bowser for simplicity sake, but slightly under is just as fine.

4. Knocked Geralt down a peg because otherwise his half of the division looked too strong. Arbitrary but necessary. Used Ryu Hayabusa as a comparison to Sub-Zero to help do so.

Yup, I agree.

5. Tifa's number (and subsequently, her division) was placed by comparisons between Luigi/Bowser and Mewtwo/Charizard. Setting those ones (around) equal to each other ended up with elegant stats, and lined up with prior results, so I rolled with it. Samus was then projected through Tifa's projection against Link through Tifa's result against Luigi/Mewtwo through their comparison with Bowser/Charizard - my head hurts.

Interesting. Probably the smart thing to do. I measured her through the Tifa/Sephiroth match and just chose to assume it's accurate because Luigi was pretty close to where Bowser was. (in other words, either method gets a fairly similar result, even though your method is clearly better)

6. Sephiroth's matches against Amaterasu and Mario were prioritized over his results against Captain Falcon and Ryu. That put him on the lower end of his x-stat 'potential', but he lost to Tifa straight-up so...yeah. I ignored the Tifa match and using the Ammy and Mario matches, he still ends up losing something like 51-49 in the final stats so he probably ended up where he should be anyway. Mario was projected through Sephiroth...and Cloud...I think. I looked at a LOT of different stuff to try and figure out a good number. Sephiroth caused issues. Only division that caused more issues was...

This is where my opinion differs. I do indeed think Sephiroth was inconsistent, but not because he just randomly behaves abnormally. Rather, I think he weakened once he reached the Legends bracket for whatever reason. Thus, I made an adjustment for Sephiroth's division based on the stronger Sephiroth, but Mario and Tifa are measured through the weaker Sephiroth.
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