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TopicNationalist politics topic 12: Pack your bags!
andel
12/12/18 3:36:35 PM
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Well, you're already more to the right than my usual detractors here. What do you think makes a nation? What do you think of the Japanese model (of society)? What do you think about the established nationalists of Europe like Putin and Orbn, and the rising stars such as Salvini? Do you think the Yellow Vests will topple Macron? Do you think the EU, as it stands today, has a future? What do you think of Trump?


a nation is just a collective of people under a general government of some kind. usually a society that shares many basic values and has some kind of collective identity.

japan is a complicated place (like every country). i think the contribution the japanese have made culturally and technologically to the world is great but i also think the emphasis they put on work is generally harmful. overall there is a lot to admire about japan but there is a lot they can improve, not different from anywhere else but they do have unique problems like extremely high suicide rates and low birth rates with one of the oldest populations. overall though i think the japanese have contributed greatly to the world and there is a lot to admire there.

idk much about salvini but i think putin and orban are both very oppressive and not good leaders. we all know about putin's oppressive streak of murdering opposition and enactment of regressive laws like criminalizing homosexuality. his penchant for oppressing the media and stamping out dissent is very troubling to me and i am not a fan of his tactics of meddling in the affairs of us and european nations

orban is also engaging in some suspect tactics like limiting the power of the courts and having the political wing take over stuff like overseeing corruption issues and that is a huge negative as it lowers transparency and gives more room to quell dissent through extra judicial means.

i feel that macron is struggling politically and has definitely made some errors, i dont think he will be imminently ousted though but will probably continue to struggle as civil unrest increases in france though. i really need to read more about that to have a educated opinion though

i think the eu will have to adapt and probably strengthen its immigration policies to continue to exist in its current state. things like brexit (whether or not it actually happens) and the general opposition to the really lax immigration standards it has make the current iteration of the eu untenable. if it dissolves it wont happen in the next few years but there are definitely issues that need to be addressed there.

i think trump is a huge liability and embarrassment and a criminal. his popularity is in the toilet (rightfully so) and his rhetoric is dangerous and unamerican. i have no faith the gop will do the right thing and remove him from office but the midterms were a repudiation of his politics and the mueller investigation continues to pump out damning info which has definitely harmed trump and his ability to govern. i do think he has not only hurt us domestically but internationally he is a joke and continues to harm our standing with our allies and stuff like his trade war is causing tremendous amounts of damage that will probably hurt us for years or even decades.
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