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Topic	I don't understand why people didn't like The Last Jedi.
darkknight109 12/08/18 1:34:26 PM #100:	man101 posted... darkknight109 posted... man101 posted... Also the bombing run in the beginning is a bigger physics clusterfuck than the hyperspeed bomb. Why do the bombs fall out without gravity? Apparently they're "magnetically charged" to "fall" away from the bomber. I don't really like that explanation myself, but it isn't even Star Wars's worst abuse of space-gravity physics (that title goes to Episode III's opening battle, where a tilting ship somehow causes gravity to shift, despite the fact that "down" on a ship is always relative to the ship itself).. That battle was taking place in the airspace above Coruscant, well within the planet's gravitational field. I have not seen the film recently enough to remember if there was ever some mention of artificial gravity being disabled or destroyed, but the ship certainly should have tilted and affected everyone on board. No, no it could not. I know what you're saying seems like it makes sense, but orbital physics do not work anywhere close to that way. There's so much wrong with that scene physically, I don't even know where to start taking it apart. I'll do my best to try to explain it without diagrams. Basically, as you probably already know, "orbit" is not so much weightlessness as it is "going forward so fast that your fall toward the planet is offset by the curve of the planet itself". Now, the ships above Coruscant are not going nearly fast enough to be in orbit, so they're clearly using some other method to stop from dropping into the planet's atmosphere. Now the Invisible Hand sustains damage and that method fails, so the ship starts falling towards the planet. Problem is, that fall wouldn't be a slow, leisurely fall like the movie depicts; it would be a sudden plunge akin to being dropped out of an airplane. And in that instance, even if the planet's gravity was overriding the ship's internal gravity, the dominant force there would not be gravity, but inertia. Depending on atmospheric specifics, Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Palpatine would have either been flung to the back of the ship (if it was outside the atmosphere and not affected by atmospheric resistance) or they would have suddenly been weightless, like someone riding the "Vomit Comet" (if the ship was inside the upper atmosphere) since the ship and them would be falling at the same rate. Regardless, nothing about that scene makes any sense at all from a physics perspective. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:913773966] in I don't un... [t:77263318]...</cite> <quote><cite>man101 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>man101 posted...</cite> <quote>Also the bombing run in the beginning is a bigger physics clusterfuck than the hyperspeed bomb. Why do the bombs fall out without gravity? </quote> Apparently they're "magnetically charged" to "fall" away from the bomber. I don't really like that explanation myself, but it isn't even Star Wars's worst abuse of space-gravity physics (that title goes to Episode III's opening battle, where a tilting ship somehow causes gravity to shift, despite the fact that "down" on a ship is always relative to the ship itself)..</quote> That battle was taking place in the airspace above Coruscant, well within the planet's gravitational field. I have not seen the film recently enough to remember if there was ever some mention of artificial gravity being disabled or destroyed, but the ship certainly should have tilted and affected everyone on board.</quote> No, no it could not. I know what you're saying seems like it makes sense, but orbital physics do not work anywhere close to that way. There's so much wrong with that scene physically, I don't even know where to start taking it apart. I'll do my best to try to explain it without diagrams. Basically, as you probably already know, "orbit" is not so much weightlessness as it is "going forward so fast that your fall toward the planet is offset by the curve of the planet itself". Now, the ships above Coruscant are not going nearly fast enough to be in orbit, so they're clearly using some other method to stop from dropping into the planet's atmosphere. Now the Invisible Hand sustains damage and that method fails, so the ship starts falling towards the planet. Problem is, that fall wouldn't be a slow, leisurely fall like the movie depicts; it would be a sudden plunge akin to being dropped out of an airplane. And in that instance, even if the planet's gravity was overriding the ship's internal gravity, the dominant force there would not be gravity, but inertia. Depending on atmospheric specifics, Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Palpatine would have either been flung to the back of the ship (if it was outside the atmosphere and not affected by atmospheric resistance) or they would have suddenly been weightless, like someone riding the "Vomit Comet" (if the ship was inside the upper atmosphere) since the ship and them would be falling at the same rate. Regardless, nothing about that scene makes any sense at all from a physics perspective. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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