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Tyranthraxus posted...

Esrac posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

Esrac posted...

Are you suggesting if they make a movie about black characters, you can't think its overrated without being a racist?

No. I'm saying the sentiment that the movie is overrated because of black characters is racist.

If you want to say it's overrated, that's fine. If you want to give a reason, that's also fine. If the reason is the skin color of the actors, that's textbook definition of racism.

Most people seem to acknowledge that it was a good superhero movie. Or at least as good as most Marvel movies. Probably even one of the better ones. That is a fair appraisal, I think.

The suggestion is that progressive-minded critics are giving it excessive acclaim because they want the first big marvel superhero blockbuster starring a black hero, with a majority black cast, black director, etc. to be very well regarded. Particularly when awards programs have gotten negative attention in recent years for not being diverse enough.

It seems to me that the nitpicking isn't that the movie is bad and only getting praised because the cast is black, but that critics hesitate to knock it because they don't want to be called racist and that they would nominate it for an award to show how not racist they are. I don't think that's a racist suspicion. But I'd concede that racists would use any avenue to tear down a successful movie starring minorities that they can.

This is just a variant of the timeless "sjws are the real racists" argument that has never made any sense.

Not really. It's the "left leaning people are scared to be called racist, so they bend over backwards to not be called racist by taking any opportunity to show how not racist they are" argument. But maybe I'm being a little pedantic.

A_Good_Boy posted...

That would be a pretty believable argument if A Wrinkle in Time, another movie with a majority poc cast that came out around the same time as Black Panther, didn't get the ever loving shit kicked out of it at the box office and by critics.

One of these days you guys are just gonna have to face the facts, and the facts are that people just like the Black Panther movie.

I think the list of people saying Black Panther wasn't a likable movie is relatively short. I liked Black Panther. Not as much as Avengers, Thor Ragnarok, Doctor Strange, Winter Soldier, etc. but I liked it. Though in also acknowledge that, being a white guy, the movie probably isn't going to carry the same weight that it would for black viewers.

As for AWiT, you probably have a good point there. You can't polish a real turd much, even if the cast is various shades of brown. But that just seems like the flip side of them saying they aren't racist if they aren't nagging on other nominated movies with majority colored casts.

Though I don't recall AWiT being treated like a significant cultural event in the way Black Panther was.

The only retort I could imagine is that the critics wouldn't lie to say a bad movie was good, but they might embellish to say a good movie was award-winningly great.
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