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Grischnak posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Peterson had that one exchange where he made excuses for Hitler, and depicted the Nazis as "order" compared to the "chaos" that communism represented.

I don't really get the issue with either point. Being "order" doesn't mean something is good. I mean, the Galactic Empire is "order". Still super evil though. As for Hitler, explaining his reasoning and why he did the things he did does imply support of his actions. It's like explaining how someone born into poverty and surround by gang culture feels like they have "no choice" to become a drug dealer. Obviously they do have a choice and their actions are wrong but that doesn't mean you can't try and see things from their perspective.

The issue is that it's echoing literal Nazi apologia. It's the kind of obfuscation and rationalization that Hitler's proponents did back then. And since JBP "studied Hitler a lot", he knows this. So he knows exactly what he's doing and who he's appealing to when he's making those kinds of statements.
They might be misguided or well-intentioned if you ignore the context. The context is that JBP is well aware that he's an alt-right Messiah of sorts, and he's well aware of what he's saying and who he's saying it to.

I don't buy that. Explaining the reasoning behind something is not being an apologist for it. For example, I can explain the logic behind why people own slaves. That doesn't make me a slavery apologist. As for him pandering to Nazis, are you saying people should ignore the reality of post WW1 Germany and pretend that WW2 era Germany just appeared out of the ether to ravage the world just so Neo Nazis don't have shitty arguing points? There are explanations for why WW2 era Germany came into existence. That doesn't make why they did ok but there's no reason to ignore the reasons behind the things that happened.