Ben, you are scum with red because of hoping for a second train, any second train, to form without starting it yourself when red was a few votes from being lynched d1; without his claim.
Ben, you are scum with scare because, quite frankly, if you're not, nobody can ever trust your word when it comes to scare ever again, as someone who read him well enough in Monster Mafia to fakeclaim masons with him.