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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1316
creativename
12/04/18 10:17:42 PM
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LusterSoldier posted...
creativename posted...
But dont the results so far indicate the registered users are more hardcore Nintendo fans?

I thought non-Nintendo characters did better with anonymous voters outside of rallies, especially Square characters. Was I getting the wrong impression?


Anonymous voters do tend to favor non-Nintendo characters more than Nintendo characters, but it was quite interesting that they seemed to favor Samus in a match featuring 2 Nintendo characters.

The registereds being bigger Nintendo fans and favoring Mario is exactly in line with why Mario rSFFs though.

Lopen posted...
I am happy to move on I just don't like people saying calling Mario > Samus by a lot was luck that depended upon Mario boosting when we literally just had a match that proved rSFF exists.

Like thinking Samus got SFFed less in the runback is not weird. It's something I expected, even, given how SFF matches have been going this contest. Spinning that as a point in favor of Samus/Mario being debatable in 04 is just like, what?

Are you strawmanning? At what point did I say Mario wouldnt rSFF her pre 2K5? Even before the rematch I thought I made it clear Id expect him to have rSFFed her back then. The argument was about magnitude.

I have made my claims explicit repeatedly. That Mario in 2K4 would not break 55%. I was firm on this even before the rematch. And that one can no longer with credibility say Mario beating Samus is a 100% lock, which I am only saying after this result.

I think these should be completely non-controversial claims. I believe these are extremely weak claims. I simply cannot see how these should be controversial claims.

Predicting Mario to win with 60% was *partially* luck if your reasoning had nothing to do with Mario rising substantially in relative strength to Samus. Not even a question. I am obviously not saying picking Mario to win via rSFF was luck.

So do you think if Mario got 60% here, that would have somehow helped *my* position? Obviously not. The better Samus did here, the more one can say SFF is wonky. The way you are looking at this match is just bizarre.

At any rate, I think both of us and everybody else would be better off if we let this irritating discussion die. This is a waste of time for all involved.
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