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Lopen posted...

I think this year had more signs for Samus doing well in Tifa and Zelda going crazy. Hell Chun Li too. The Girl Power sugoi~ factor is real.

Samus's fame in 04 was basically dispatching Sonic easily and putting a up a good number on Cloud. Sonic projected as weak that year through Ryu though.

The STATS said Samus blows Mario up in 04, a stats humiliation which stats purists have pinned on 05 Mario seemingly being stronger than 04 Mario, but I feel like Samus 18 is stronger than 04 or 05 Samus anyway.

Wow. Youre *still* going to cling to this? I truly thought this match would put this stuff to bed and we wouldnt have to talk about it much again.

Stats purists. You are tilting at windmills. This crap was never about stats purity, it was about a disagreement in logic. This statement reveals your entire perspective of this debate is twisted. You are attacking a position that nobody gives a crap about.

Ive said before how Samus is our most stable character, and if waifu factor has helped her it is to keep her stable, nothing more.

Ive also said before that I think SFF is wonky, sensitive and unpredictable. I think this match and Link/Ganon more or less confirm that.

Frankly I think the best argument for Mario winning in 2K4 is none of what you claim. It would be that the 2K5 result itself made Samus more sympathetic. Thus lowering Marios rSFF powers.

But a 51.6ish% victory can clearly be flipped depending on year. Youd be in denial to not accept that.

The Samus cant beat Mario notion is now done. Gone forever. Kaput. Assigned to the dustbin of history. Completely dismissable at this point.

I do not believe she ever *will* be able to beat Mario - but if Mario has a big game that flops while Samus has some GOTY classic on a hit console like BOTW was, yes, she could win. Again - I doubt this actually happens.

I do not have any confidence in trying to predict a 2K4 match between these two, but clearly at this point people should be able to concede a 2K4 Samus victory is no longer something you can dismiss out of hand.