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Unbridled9 posted...

Why the hell didn't the other two ships do the Holdo maneuver?

Because the ships would have wasted valuable fuel - which you might recall they had limited amounts of - and it wouldn't have helped all that much considering how much they were outnumbered by. Destroying the tracker would have done nothing (Poe points out the flaw in this plan directly in the movie itself - another ship would start tracking instead) and neither of those ships had the mass to take out the Supremacy anyways.

Keep in mind Holdo's plan - which would have worked, had Poe not blabbed the details in earshot of a slicer with no particular loyalty to the Resistance - was to lull the First Order into a false sense of security by stringing them out on the chase, then secretly launching cloaked transports to make for Crait. The Holdo Manoeuvre was only done when that plan fell apart.

Or, alternatively, why didn't Hux do this? Sacrifice a star destroyer, sure, but you KILL OFF THE ENTIRE RESISTANCE/REBELLION!

.....or he could have just blasted them to pieces normally, with his significantly larger fleet, and not wasted one of his Star Destroyers taking out three ships that he massively outgunned.

Argument A or Argument B. Either A) Hyperspace lets you at speeds faster than light at which point there's no reason an X-wing traveling at light speed wouldn't impact with the force of a nuclear bomb. Or B) It doesn't at which point basically everything Holdo did made no sense especially given the resulting fallout which couldn't have happened UNLESS she was going super-fast

Or, Argument C: What actually happened in the movie and what I already spelled out in my last set of posts. Specifically, that ships travelling in hyperspace clearly have much less energy than they should (else, as you say, a single X-wing would have been sufficient to wipe out not just the Supremacy but the entire fleet it was with, the Resistance fleet, the nearby planet, and everything else in the universe)

Hyperspace, being the black-box, physics-defying thing that it is, can pretty much do whatever it wants.

And perhaps that's exactly why this idea has never taken root. Perhaps it is too unreliable or random, or the results too difficult to predict or control. Maybe Holdo, in her desperation attack, simply got lucky

In fact I'm fairly certain Ryan never even watched the originals or else he should have remembered that the imperials HAD the tracking devices that were so central to the plot all the way back in ANH

Except there were no tracking devices in TLJ. That was the whole point. The First Order didn't install a tracking device on the Resistance ships (as was done in ANH and AotC), they were able to track the ships remotely, which is something that had not been done prior to that point. That's exactly why Vader was so disappointed at the end of ESB - when the Falcon made the jump to hyperspace, the Empire lost them; had they been able to track them, they would have just jumped after them

Meanwhile you're equating Han basically saying 'you need a skilled pilot or else you end up smacking into a sun and gravity will still mess with you' with 'It's perfectly fine for Holdo to completely wreck that massive ship with hyperdrive because it can affect things in the normal world'

You might not want to make accusations of someone not watching the originals when you're plainly misremembering them yourself. The line I'm referring to is not Han pointing out they need a skilled pilot in the cantina, it's this one from when they're fleeing the Star Destroyers above Tatooine:

"Traveling through hyperspace isn't like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?"
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