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TopicI don't understand why people didn't like The Last Jedi.
darkknight109
12/04/18 4:11:31 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
But that doesn't solve the problem. It just moves it. There's still no reason why they couldn't design a ship specifically to destroy enemy ships while in hyperspace and have it auto-piloted.

Sure there is and it's the exact same one.

Yeah, you could design a ship as a hyperspace ram and use it (which would cost you the resources used to build the ship, including the hyperdrive, which is the most expensive part of a ship judging by TPM)... or, you could design a ship as an actual warship and use it like one for better returns and more than a single use.

You'd still run into the same issue - Imperials have no need for it, because they can spend the same amount on fighting ships and not have to worry about constantly replacing them, while the Rebels can't use it because they are constantly being pinched for resources and need to scrape out every ounce of usefulness from their ships that they can, not waste them on one-off suicide strikes against a numerically superior foe.

Unbridled9 posted...
Nevermind how Holdo KNEW she'd get any sort of reaction as opposed to either jumping right past them or diddly (since her plan revolved around the jump at least being able to hit for more than 'ramming speed').

Again, ANH shows this is common knowledge - common enough that even a smuggler on a far-flung world in the outer rim knew about it.

Unbridled9 posted...
That way ramming a ship from hyperspace into normal space would be as effective as ramming a ship in normal space.

Physics don't allow for that to work, though. Hyperspace allows for faster-than-light travel; the kinetic energy of an impact alone would be literally infinite.

Unbridled9 posted...
Course, it still doesn't explain one bit about how the hell Holdo's plan worked or why an X-wing couldn't make the jump and just blow up a Star Destroyer in an identical fashion.

X-Wings don't have the mass for it. See my mass comparisons above.

Unbridled9 posted...
Ultimately...

This is YOU trying to explain and justify the plot and details. You are not Ryan Johnson. You are not the plot. You are looking for ways to fill in something in the plot that doesn't make sense with something that does. You're writing the script for him. So no, it doesn't excuse his laziness and ineptitude or make the moment any better even if it is, somehow, both realitistic and faithful. Because in order for it to become either of those things you had to go out and write massive bits of script and science to make it work.

No, I'm not "writing" anything. This isn't my creativity giving birth to an entirely new idea, this is just me pointing out observations based on TLJ and stuff that's been in the franchise for decades and explaining why the stuff you're complaining about isn't actually complaint-worthy, because it's logically consistent with what's come before.

This would be like if I complained about Rey being able to use the Force untrained, then if someone pointed out that Anakin was able to pilot a pod-racer - a feat no other human, Force-sensitive or no, had ever accomplished - with no formal training, I responded "Yeah, well, now you're just excusing the plot and you're not the director, so it doesn't count."
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