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Topic	Petition for 5.1 surround music
Bostich2 09/14/18 7:09:41 PM #14:	Nice to see a few supporters! Be sure to sign the petition if you haven't already. Every signature counts (at least to me). Red_Frog posted... The simple fact is, not that many people have surround systems. Surround sound has carved out a decent following of aficionados between video games and feature films, but whether it's TV speakers, headphones, bookshelves or a pair of towers, the bulk of listening is still done in stereo. Not to mention the difficulty of making good recordings of live audio in surround. Mixing audio for games or movies can be incredibly simple and still sound fine even with mediocre tools and software, getting that "sitting in the chair" feeling out of a live recording is much more difficult. This is true, and I wouldn't suggest getting rid of stereo because there will probably always be situations where 5.1 just isn't practical. Still, I think the number of people with surround sound systems has probably increased somewhat compared to 20 years ago, at least based on my experience. It would be interesting to see some actual data though. With movies and video games commonly supporting surround sound and the advent of "home theater in a box" systems lowering the price of entry, it would at least make sense for there to be more people with surround systems now. I am simply advocating having 5.1 music alongside stereo so people can choose which way they want to listen, just like with movies. It is undoubtedly harder to make 5.1 mixes than it is to make stereo mixes. That has been my experience when making my 5.1 remixes of NES soundtracks. Still, I'm of the opinion that it's well worth the extra effort. I'm sure that working with live recordings has its own challenges that are not present with electronically generated audio. That is something I've never had the occasion to attempt. Nevertheless, I have some 5.1 albums on DVD-Audio that sound really good so there are definitely some people that figured out how to make good 5.1 mixes. I think the best ones in my collection, only considering the quality of the 5.1 mix are: Dream Theater (self-titled) Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying? Nightwish - Dark Passion Play Zangulus posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.1_Music_Disc Its existed for a long time. There are some discs out there. But like others have said, the lack of proliferation of systems to play it, its pretty rare. Yep, that's pretty much the point. The technology has been around for about 20 years or so, but wasn't marketed so hardly anyone knew about it. Furthermore, the lack of available content would deter most people from buying the necessary equipment. The main problem with DTS-CD specifically, in my opinion, is that it requires using lossy compression. In this regard, it is similar to MP3, except that it is in 5.1. That doesn't mean that it automatically sounds bad, but at the same time, it isn't completely satisfying when you're accustomed to lossless audio. --- Classic NES tunes in 5.1 surround! http://nes51.wordpress.com/ <cite>Bostich2 posted [p:908767535] in Petition f... [t:77000491]...</cite> <quote>Nice to see a few supporters! Be sure to sign the petition if you haven't already. Every signature counts (at least to me). <cite>Red_Frog posted...</cite> <quote>The simple fact is, not that many people have surround systems. Surround sound has carved out a decent following of aficionados between video games and feature films, but whether it's TV speakers, headphones, bookshelves or a pair of towers, the bulk of listening is still done in stereo. Not to mention the difficulty of making good recordings of live audio in surround. Mixing audio for games or movies can be incredibly simple and still sound fine even with mediocre tools and software, getting that "sitting in the chair" feeling out of a live recording is much more difficult.</quote> This is true, and I wouldn't suggest getting rid of stereo because there will probably always be situations where 5.1 just isn't practical. Still, I think the number of people with surround sound systems has probably increased somewhat compared to 20 years ago, at least based on my experience. It would be interesting to see some actual data though. With movies and video games commonly supporting surround sound and the advent of "home theater in a box" systems lowering the price of entry, it would at least make sense for there to be more people with surround systems now. I am simply advocating having 5.1 music alongside stereo so people can choose which way they want to listen, just like with movies. It is undoubtedly harder to make 5.1 mixes than it is to make stereo mixes. That has been my experience when making my 5.1 remixes of NES soundtracks. Still, I'm of the opinion that it's well worth the extra effort. I'm sure that working with live recordings has its own challenges that are not present with electronically generated audio. That is something I've never had the occasion to attempt. Nevertheless, I have some 5.1 albums on DVD-Audio that sound really good so there are definitely some people that figured out how to make good 5.1 mixes. I think the best ones in my collection, only considering the quality of the 5.1 mix are: Dream Theater (self-titled) Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying? Nightwish - Dark Passion Play <cite>Zangulus posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.1_Music_Disc Its existed for a long time. There are some discs out there. But like others have said, the lack of proliferation of systems to play it, its pretty rare.</quote> Yep, that's pretty much the point. The technology has been around for about 20 years or so, but wasn't marketed so hardly anyone knew about it. Furthermore, the lack of available content would deter most people from buying the necessary equipment. The main problem with DTS-CD specifically, in my opinion, is that it requires using lossy compression. In this regard, it is similar to MP3, except that it is in 5.1. That doesn't mean that it automatically sounds bad, but at the same time, it isn't completely satisfying when you're accustomed to lossless audio. --- Classic NES tunes in 5.1 surround! http://nes51.wordpress.com/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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