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Topic	If you haven't already heard, Trump's own administration is working against him.
darkknight109 09/13/18 2:34:13 AM #57:	Zeus posted... a personal vendetta and who has been using negative coverage of Trump to fill their coffers Accurately reporting Trump's numerous failings does not constitute a personal vendetta, and making money off of it does not make it untrue. Else I could just say "Well, Fox is making money off of positively portraying the Trump presidency, so Fox must be lying about everything. Zeus posted... ...you mean the guy who broke a story by providing evidence of wrongdoing who is now offering up unsubstantiated quotes and claims? Yeah, the guy who published stuff said by Deep Throat and fastidiously refusing to reveal who he was (turns out he was correct). Zeus posted... Overlooking your pretty weak appeal to authority A statement of credibility is not an Appeal to Authority. Zeus posted... you're forgetting that --- if you believe that Trump is the literal anti-Christ (because your echo chambers have constantly reinforced that idea) or view his rise as an outsider as a threat to the system --- it's unsurprising that people would be willing to stake anything on his removal Or, you know, they're reporting on stuff which is really unsurprising based on the way Trump acts. The guy is famously - and proudly - ignorant of how virtually every part of his job works, from foreign relations to intelligence to the apolitical nature of the justice department to emolument laws. People aren't shocked by what the book and the editorial revealed, because it's entirely in line with the behaviour we all see on a daily basis. Zeus posted... A conspiracy would require shadowy coordination. I haven't accused the media of covertly coordinating attacks, but instead perpetrating and perpetuating a cycle of lies as well as abandoning even the facade of unbiased journalism. Considering both the Times and Bob Woodward reported on essentially the same thing, no, your allegation only makes sense if you're suggesting conspiracy. Otherwise, you're suggesting that the two had the fabulous good luck to independently make up identical stories. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:908646867] in If you hav... [t:76972426]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>a personal vendetta and who has been using negative coverage of Trump to fill their coffers</quote> Accurately reporting Trump's numerous failings does not constitute a personal vendetta, and making money off of it does not make it untrue. Else I could just say "Well, Fox is making money off of positively portraying the Trump presidency, so Fox must be lying about everything. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>...you mean the guy who broke a story by providing evidence of wrongdoing who is now offering up unsubstantiated quotes and claims?</quote> Yeah, the guy who published stuff said by Deep Throat and fastidiously refusing to reveal who he was (turns out he was correct). <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Overlooking your pretty weak appeal to authority</quote> A statement of credibility is not an Appeal to Authority. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>you're forgetting that --- if you believe that Trump is the literal anti-Christ (because your echo chambers have constantly reinforced that idea) or view his rise as an outsider as a threat to the system --- it's unsurprising that people would be willing to stake anything on his removal</quote> Or, you know, they're reporting on stuff which is really unsurprising based on the way Trump acts. The guy is famously - and proudly - ignorant of how virtually every part of his job works, from foreign relations to intelligence to the apolitical nature of the justice department to emolument laws. People aren't shocked by what the book and the editorial revealed, because it's entirely in line with the behaviour we all see on a daily basis. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>A conspiracy would require shadowy coordination. I haven't accused the media of covertly coordinating attacks, but instead perpetrating and perpetuating a cycle of lies as well as abandoning even the facade of unbiased journalism.</quote> Considering both the Times and Bob Woodward reported on essentially the same thing, no, your allegation only makes sense if you're suggesting conspiracy. Otherwise, you're suggesting that the two had the fabulous good luck to independently make up identical stories. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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