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TopicArria plays/reads Umineko blind, Kira cackles at her SPOILERS ARE OKAY #3
Mega Mana
07/05/18 11:43:49 AM
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K: Okay, so lets start with Twilight 1. I think you solved the issue with the sealed envelope last time.
A: Yeah, the wax seals arent fool-proof and Rosa could feasibly understand how to remove it without breaking it and reapply it.
(Later: I realize now that we BOTH forgot about a red truth somewhere that said the key was never in anyones possession from the time it was given to Maria until the letter was opened. That said, I think Arria would be able to solve it easily now. Were told the chapel was locked by Rosa and no other evidence was ever shown suggesting she was telling the truth.)
A: Reading this part now, I have a different interpretation. (The part in question was where I wrote in the notes The seven Ushiromiya adults and Beatrice gathered in the chapel. All seven acknowledge the existence of Beatrice as a witch.)
A: I think this is just Rosa with a gun threatening everyone. There was a bar of gold here, correct?
K: Yeah, we were show at least one, possibly more, when the characters investigate the scene later
A: And that was the gold Krauss and Natsuhi knew about, right? What if they invited the family into the chapel and were going to show off the gold to gain some kind of leverage over them, but Rosa had a gun and decided f*** it and murdered them all to keep the gold.
K: Okay. So how about the Happy Halloween for Maria bit. Who did that?


I love reading this topic because all of a sudden I'll get random, wild stray thoughts. Well, one old thought and one completely new one, but here we go:

#1. After learning about what 'gouging and killing' is in relation to 'finding the entrance to the golden land,' what if Game 2 is all about how Rosa solved the epitaph? It's the game board written by Shannon with the most urgency to discover her identity and understand who Shannon is and what love is and feels the most confessional with her heartache (though thinking on how she wrote these when Battler was a surprise to return to the island is a bit of a mystery thinking back now...), and even one of the few where she definitely died before the end of the game. Those games are almost always the ones where someone else discovered the gold. Game one is all Shannon, all planning to perfection. Game two is Rosa throwing a wrench into everything, the Black Witch coming about with how brutal some of the deaths are, and Rosa's golden land and run from the bomb definite signs that she knew stuff.

So, if Rosa solved the epitaph, she would know how to get into the chapel without needing the envelope key. ...Okay, reading the Red Truths is making my head hurt, but 'this front door' is tricky... and the six people doesn't fit either when Rosa first opened the door or when Battler's group came (but there's also no mention of ONLY the six, nor red specification it was the six who died).

Also, was there a letter in Maria's envelope or just a key? "The letter that I handed over to Maria and the one Rosa opened are the same thing" // "The key to the chapel truly was the object inside the envelope I gave Maria" What is the key wasn't a key? Rosa opens the door with the physical key while accompanied by Shannon and Kanon. What if there's an actual letter in there with the answer for how to enter? Did Battler ever physically see the physical key?

Now, more and more and more overthinking... Rosa never discovered the gold. I'm lying, Rosa never discovered the gold. This is Vengeance Yasu showing off that she is Beatrice to the six adults (not counting Rosa who wasn't invited), blowing them up, then focusing all the clues to pinning it on Rosa. For Maria and her story of abuse? For her dead mother? Because she's broken and messed up?

#2. SMALL BOMBS? Or maybe, Shannon and her love to explode things this episode just hid dynamite under the table!

I don't know. My brain's running too wild now...
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