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Topic	Boogie has a breakdown on stream over Twitter calling him "Boggie1488"
Darmik 06/26/18 10:15:23 PM #47:	Fate posted... Obviously, he was not talking about "gay people being allowed to get gay married" but the insane and intolerant bullshit of trying to get people fired from their jobs, expelled from schools, censor free speech and physically assault people for still having the same positions Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton had 10 years ago. It's perfectly reasonable to say that stuff is nasty and intolerant, because it is, and that all it does is turn people against your cause, because the religious right acting in exactly the same way is what turned people against them. All of these are reasonable points and comparing someone to people who committed genocide simply for saying "don't being a bigot jerk" is barbaric, and you shouldn't be defending it. Acting exactly the same way that bigots and oppressors do doesn't magically become more morally justified because you're "on the right side of history", morals and empathy don't work like that. I say all this as a bi man with 2 gay uncles, one of whom I will never get to meet for reasons I shouldn't have to explain here. No. He specifically says it would have been better to wait 5 more years to change more minds. That people died to get it done faster and that's not okay. The problem with Boogie isn't that he's homophobic. I don't think he is at all. The problem with Boogie is that he's ultimately pretty spineless. He hasn't really had to be in the situation to fight for rights. He's more on the side that needs to be convinced on things. So from his angle anything bad that happens is automatically the fault of the oppressed because from his angle everyone is living fine under the status quo. But it doesn't work like that for everyone. That's why making fence sitting statements like "we should have waited longer for gay marriage so less people die" is what gets people so riled up. People were already dying because of their sexuality. It's not because people successfully campaigned for gay marriage. But from his angle that seems to be the issue because he's now in the situation to notice it. He has the luxury to wait for things like gay marriage equality because it's not really a thing that personally impacts him. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:904028404] in Boogie has... [t:76753503]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fate posted...</cite> <quote>Obviously, he was not talking about "gay people being allowed to get gay married" but the insane and intolerant bullshit of trying to get people fired from their jobs, expelled from schools, censor free speech and physically assault people for still having the same positions Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton had 10 years ago. It's perfectly reasonable to say that stuff is nasty and intolerant, because it is, and that all it does is turn people against your cause, because the religious right acting in exactly the same way is what turned people against them. All of these are reasonable points and comparing someone to people who committed genocide simply for saying "don't being a bigot jerk" is barbaric, and you shouldn't be defending it. Acting exactly the same way that bigots and oppressors do doesn't magically become more morally justified because you're "on the right side of history", morals and empathy don't work like that. I say all this as a bi man with 2 gay uncles, one of whom I will never get to meet for reasons I shouldn't have to explain here.</quote> No. He specifically says it would have been better to wait 5 more years to change more minds. That people died to get it done faster and that's not okay. The problem with Boogie isn't that he's homophobic. I don't think he is at all. The problem with Boogie is that he's ultimately pretty spineless. He hasn't really had to be in the situation to fight for rights. He's more on the side that needs to be convinced on things. So from his angle anything bad that happens is automatically the fault of the oppressed because from his angle everyone is living fine under the status quo. But it doesn't work like that for everyone. That's why making fence sitting statements like "we should have waited longer for gay marriage so less people die" is what gets people so riled up. People were already dying because of their sexuality. It's not because people successfully campaigned for gay marriage. But from his angle that seems to be the issue because he's now in the situation to notice it. He has the luxury to wait for things like gay marriage equality because it's not really a thing that personally impacts him. --- Kind Regards, Darmik</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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