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TopicFreedom, Liberty, Ron Paul - Where all da white refugees at? [dwmf]
HotDogButts
06/25/18 10:13:15 PM
#215:


foolm0r0n posted...
HotDogButts posted...
Why do you see it as mindless

Because if you take that idea to its logical conclusion, it's obviously absurd. Even if you take it just a little bit down the road (50-100 years), it reaches absurdity pretty quickly. And even stronger, you could argue that the past election has already contradicted that idea.

So it can only be an idea that someone who has given no thought would hold. Mindless.


And yet you argue that things are moving in the opposite direction, presently. How is that not ultimately a contradiction? Are you taking umbrage with "foregone conclusion" indicating 100% chance rather than 99%? I understand what you're saying, and yeah it's obviously true (and was considered before even making that post on my end). But we're not talking about ultimate logical conclusions and we're not talking about 50 years down the line, we're talking about 2. At this point Trump is Trump, and the reaction is the reaction. There is little to no reason to believe that the next thing he does that people don't like are going to make them question the foundation of our political system. It could happen, but there is no rational reason to expect it to happen, as far as I can see. If you have some reasonable reason as to having that expectation, ok, I maintain the possibility of being wrong/not having considered something. But that doesn't make the cynicism mindless, and given what we presently know and are experiencing, the optimism certainly seems like the more mindless of the two choices for some radical philosophical shift of the American populace in the next 2 years for reasons unstated.
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