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Gmun
06/20/18 6:00:37 AM
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NeoElfboy posted...
I'll try to explain since you obviously know nothing about Canada:

In Canada, provincial parties and federal parties are distinct from each other despite sometimes using the same names. In fact, in my province, the Liberals are the right-wing party.

In fact, Ontario specifically has a history of liking to elect a left-wing party at one level and a right-wing party at another (probably to achieve some balance).

The Ontario Liberal party had been in power for a decade and a half and were unpopular; they were expected to lose this election for a long time even back when the Trudeau Liberals were extremely popular.

... I'm not sure with I bother. I know you're not actually interested in understanding the political situation in Canada, and probably just hate Trudeau because he's a feminist or something similarly inane.

Would also note the actual left wing party had the biggest gains (+10%) since the Wynne's libs were so unliked the left-wing evacuated. Unfortunately Libs historically control the left since Ontario is a centrist stronghold that sees NDP votes as wasted votes, so large chunk of voters clung on to the Liberal's sinking ship (again, NOT the left party. Liberal does not mean left, see Japan) because even if NDP are doing well in the polls with the tides turning left, nobody has riding data to feel safe to switch in there area, particularly in the outer-GTA, the 905 (including my city!).

In Canada the left wing are always split, it's how we had Harper for 10 years despite the country hating his guts and devoting everything to toppling him last federal election. This was Ford's election to lose and the only question being asked from day 1 was if the Libs would even retain official party status (they lost it).

If you want more facts, provincial elections are largely ignored by most Canadians and heavily stacked by the elderly

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Also another FUN FACT: for the conservative primaries, Doug Ford lost both the popular vote AND the number of ridings but still won the full thing as the OPC primary was a completely chaotic clusterfuck of people not being able to vote due to new changes in the system. Honestly if Doug lost the primaries, we wouldn't have even needed to hold a provincial elections since the Conservatives would've just sweeped house.

Oh right another fun fact especially for vlado because you would inexplicably think this is a bad thing: The provincial election had very very little to do with immigration, and Doug Ford actually had decent minority support, particularly with Wynne's sex-ed curriculum angering Muslim communities. So congratulations to Vlado for cheering on traditional Islamic values guiding Canadian provincial politics!
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