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CoolCly 06/16/18 5:27:35 PM #166:	HanOfTheNekos posted... he format of the movie, being told as a story from Tony's point of view, is pretty solid, although a little weird because we haven't seen something like it before. The movies are all told from a 3rd person omniscient point of view, but this one is a 1st person omniscient... which makes it a little weird when scenes without Tony happen. But I digress. This leads to two amazing moments... one is ending the movie with the same line that the first one ends with "I am Iron Man", but with so much more meaning and completion to it. Tony's arc throughout the entire 4 movies ends really solidly here - he has his place in the world, he understands who he is, what his self and Pepper mean to him. His conclusion is really good. So of course I expect them to ruin it with Avengers 2. The reason the movie is framed this way is because of the director - Shane Black. Trivia time! As I'm sure you are aware, RDJ had a lot of trouble with addiction in the 90ies and his career tanked big time by the early 2000's. He had a ton of trouble getting roles in the mid 2000's as most studios wouldn't take on the risk of his relapse. Iron Man is often credited with his "return" to acting, but it's more like his breakthrough back into mainstream blockbusters rather than his return to acting entirely. There were some roles he got thanks to personal connections of people willing to take a chance on him, and some cases where the studio withheld a lot of his pay until production was over in case he fucked things up. One of these movies was Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, which was directed by Shane Black. It's an excellent movie where RDJ plays a small time thief from NY that somehow gets swept up to LA to be in a movie but gets caught up in a twisted plot of mystery, murder, romance, and gunplay. Val Kilmer also stars and he's excellent too. RDJ's character, Harry, is basically Tony Stark if everything was going wrong in his life and he was a screw up instead of genius. Which I guess doesn't sound like Tony Stark but he feels very similar to me. As you may have also heard, casting Tony Stark was very controversial... like most movies there was a lot of pressure to get a young good looking guy like a Channing Tatum type to star and draw audiences. At one point Tom Cruise was considered... but he wanted the mask to be see through so you could see his face the whole movie. Imagine where we'd be now.... Anyways, Favreau pushed to get RDJ in, and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is often said to be the role that helped him get it. The structure is very similar to Iron Man 3. RDJ narrates the story the same way. I guess RDJ really liked working with Shane Black and pushed Marvel to bring him in for IM3, and Black brought his distinctive style to the movie. IM3 is kind of a spiritual sequel to Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I highly recommend Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. It's a great movie. But since you are pushing through through a 20 movie 18 season mega franchise it might be a while before you can fit that in your queue.... Thoughts on IM3 itself later --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:903391299] in Han contin... [t:76658565]...</cite> <quote><cite>HanOfTheNekos posted...</cite> <quote>he format of the movie, being told as a story from Tony's point of view, is pretty solid, although a little weird because we haven't seen something like it before. The movies are all told from a 3rd person omniscient point of view, but this one is a 1st person omniscient... which makes it a little weird when scenes without Tony happen. But I digress. This leads to two amazing moments... one is ending the movie with the same line that the first one ends with "I am Iron Man", but with so much more meaning and completion to it. Tony's arc throughout the entire 4 movies ends really solidly here - he has his place in the world, he understands who he is, what his self and Pepper mean to him. His conclusion is really good. So of course I expect them to ruin it with Avengers 2. </quote> The reason the movie is framed this way is because of the director - Shane Black. Trivia time! As I'm sure you are aware, RDJ had a lot of trouble with addiction in the 90ies and his career tanked big time by the early 2000's. He had a ton of trouble getting roles in the mid 2000's as most studios wouldn't take on the risk of his relapse. Iron Man is often credited with his "return" to acting, but it's more like his breakthrough back into mainstream blockbusters rather than his return to acting entirely. There were some roles he got thanks to personal connections of people willing to take a chance on him, and some cases where the studio withheld a lot of his pay until production was over in case he fucked things up. One of these movies was Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, which was directed by Shane Black. It's an excellent movie where RDJ plays a small time thief from NY that somehow gets swept up to LA to be in a movie but gets caught up in a twisted plot of mystery, murder, romance, and gunplay. Val Kilmer also stars and he's excellent too. RDJ's character, Harry, is basically Tony Stark if everything was going wrong in his life and he was a screw up instead of genius. Which I guess doesn't sound like Tony Stark but he feels very similar to me. As you may have also heard, casting Tony Stark was very controversial... like most movies there was a lot of pressure to get a young good looking guy like a Channing Tatum type to star and draw audiences. At one point Tom Cruise was considered... but he wanted the mask to be see through so you could see his face the whole movie. Imagine where we'd be now.... Anyways, Favreau pushed to get RDJ in, and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is often said to be the role that helped him get it. The structure is very similar to Iron Man 3. RDJ narrates the story the same way. I guess RDJ really liked working with Shane Black and pushed Marvel to bring him in for IM3, and Black brought his distinctive style to the movie. IM3 is kind of a spiritual sequel to Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I highly recommend Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. It's a great movie. But since you are pushing through through a 20 movie 18 season mega franchise it might be a while before you can fit that in your queue.... Thoughts on IM3 itself later --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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