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TopicUber suspends self-driving tests after pedestrian is killed in Arizona.
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03/20/18 10:05:20 PM
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yutterh posted...
bulbinking posted...
Zeus posted...
It's a damn shame, especially since this will set back progress by years. It's also worth remembering that in *every* incident so far, the error has been on the part of the other participant in the accident and it seems like that might be the case here as well.

Krazy_Kirby posted...
"but self driving cars are safe, guys"

said lots of idiots....


They are safe.... for the driver. (Or, at least, safer than a human.)


It takes two to get in an accident provided both vehicles/people were in motion.

Even if it was the ladies fault, that is to imply no human has ever prevented or avoided an accident in which somebody was breaking the law and the safer driver does defensive driving to a oid accident or warn somebody else before crashing.

Driver language and interactions are far too complex for even your average driver today to get all the nuances, how are bunch of deskjob geeks with typical or less driving experience going to program an ai capable of handling it all?

The only way for ai cars to be 100% safer than the best driver on the road is if the best driver is forced to be in an ai car on the road.

Human excellence is still an achievable goal, we have t hit some magical pinnacle of evolution yet and so many technologies in development right now revolve around the idea we can start retiring from society have robots do all of our physical activities like using our brains for manual labor is a waste or something.


True, the best drivers can avoid most accidents. But how many good drivers are even really on the road? For every good driver there is hundreds if not thousands of worse ones. Luckily (knock on wood) I have avoided accidents because of my reaction time, keeping a safe distance, and watch everyone. But this scenario is my worse nightmare and why I hate driving in anyplace where people are walking. Cause then yoh have to watch for this exact thing. Now the car may have been able to pay attention to surroundings if it was human but that's why there is a human behind the wheel. Just because he isn't controlling the vehicle, doesn't mean he isn't co-piloting. He is there for a reason and I feel the human failed his job in this scenario and the others. I still feel the blame is on the human behind the wheel. It is new tech that still has much much much more development before it can be 100% autonamis and people are acting like the tech is perfected. If anything, this has shown that autonamis cars are actually better then a majority of people in my opinion. One key factor being it will never drive exhausted, distracted, intoxicated, etc.

The thing is that most people wouldn't rather not pay attention. People are going to drive exhausted, distracted, intoxicated, etc... They won't understand why they can't if he car drives itself. People are going to do the same things they do while driving now. But pay even less attention. People who read the newspaper, put on make-up, eat breakfast, or whatever they do while to driving to and from work. Sure, we'll have laws. But laws aren't going to bring back someone who died because the driver wasn't paying attention. Or was drunk or sleep. And people are definitely going to be jumping in front of self-driving cars more often... I feel the death rates might lessen some... But, I would just rather not own a self-driving car. And I definitely wouldn't want to pay insurance for one...
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