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ForestLogic posted...

Nah. It's not just Abrahamic ones. Many Buddhists revere him as a bodhisattva and Hinduism dictates it was possible he was an avatar of Vishnu (or maybe Krishna, I forget).

Those are incredibly modern ideas that only come from modern mixing and exist mostly as fringe theories. Hindu (and Buddhism, for that matter) predate Christianity by some time (Hindu is actually one of the oldest known religions). Also, it would be Vishnu. Krishna is an avatar of Vishnu.

To say that it's a common belief is incredibly wrong.

ForestLogic posted...

I actually casually practice Buddhism, after I studied theology in college. It's really cool how many major religions have a lot of parallels in them

Seems like it'd be a difficult concept to mix with Christianity given that Buddhism is explicitly polytheistic and Christianity is explicitly monotheistic. They all do have some things in common. It's a broad statement, though, since their differences are remarkable, too.

ForestLogic posted...

You keep bringing this up over and over again despite the fact I keep reiterating that most Christians don't subscribe to biblical inerrancy. What else am I supposed to say?
I already addressed all your points in my last post and you keep asking the same questions, I assume because you just really want to have this AHA GOTCHA moment and are frustrated it's not happening, hence the necro-bump. I don't know what else to tell you, dude. Sorry I'm not a conservative Christian fundamentalist?

Okay, let me put it this way; all the concepts you have brought up are rooted in the Bible. They didn't just come out of thin air, nor where they passed down to you through some oral tradition. I'm not looking for a 'GOTCHA' moment, and frankly, I feel you are trying to undercut my arguments by making it seem like I'm some angry, snide, angstheist or something. Your constant reliance on talking down to me is grating, quite honestly.

Also, it wasn't a 'necro-bump'. I came back a few days later, noticed you hadn't answered my question and I was curious and didn't want it to purge. In fact, you still haven't really answered my question. I asked specifically where your personal beliefs come from if not the Bible, especially about Jesus and his role as the messiah. Evidently, you are unwilling to answer that so I guess I'll stop asking.

My problem is straight up that literally everything you've told me about 'your faith' so far is straight from the Bible. You then turn around and say, "the Bible isn't infallible or perfect". Why follow Christianity at all, then? You seem to hinge on the fact that Jesus is world renowned as some sort of messianic figure, but that isn't true, either. He's important in the Abrahamic faiths, with his importance ranging from being a cool guy to being the savior of mankind. As I mentioned above, the melding of Jesus into other religions is a very, very modern phenomenon and frankly requires you to contradict a lot of doctrine on both sides.

ForestLogic posted...

If you really want some insight on my personal point of view towards Christianity, look up some of Martin Luther's shit. Specifically 'simul justus et peccator' (which I have tattooed to my arm ) and 'grace through faith alone'.

Personally, I don't care for Martin Luther as anything other than a historical figure. His rabid anti-semitism is a real black stain on his role as a philosopher, in my books. More importantly, though, Martin Luther put a huge emphasis on people reading the Bible themselves (it was sort of a major point of contention with the Catholic church), so that sort of contradicts with what you were saying as well.