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Topic	florida gov rick scott said they'd consider anything to stop gun violence in FL
Selenara 02/21/18 9:16:47 PM #42:	darkknight109 posted... I'm interested in seeing a source on that (particularly given that I just spent half my post talking about Canadian homicide rates and how they dropped). But, perhaps more to the point, so what? Gun violence of all types is bad. Even if the reduction is seen in suicides instead of homicides, isn't that still a goal worth pursuing? It's a reduction in the number of suicides by gun, which constitutes the majority of gun violence. Suicide by other means increased during the same time period. The same pdf I linked you earlier also had suicide data for Canada. Here it is again: http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/csj-sjc/crime/rr06_2/rr06_2.pdf Wikipedia also discusses the effect on suicides. In Australia, suicide by gun decreased but suicide by hanging increased dramatically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Canada#Violent_crime,_suicide,_and_accidents_in_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Australia#Measuring_the_effects_of_firearms_laws_in_Australia darkknight109 posted... why does the US have a the highest murder rate in the developed world? Most gun deaths are suicides. Out of those that are homicides, many occur in poor urban areas as gang-related violence. The drug war in the US is a major instigator of gun-related crime and homicides. If you excluded gang violence from the statistics, the numbers would be more in-line with other countries. <cite>Selenara posted [p:896528819] in florida go... [t:76340277]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm interested in seeing a source on that (particularly given that I just spent half my post talking about Canadian homicide rates and how they dropped). But, perhaps more to the point, so what? Gun violence of all types is bad. Even if the reduction is seen in suicides instead of homicides, isn't that still a goal worth pursuing? </quote> It's a reduction in the number of suicides by gun, which constitutes the majority of gun violence. Suicide by other means increased during the same time period. The same pdf I linked you earlier also had suicide data for Canada. Here it is again: http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/csj-sjc/crime/rr06_2/rr06_2.pdf Wikipedia also discusses the effect on suicides. In Australia, suicide by gun decreased but suicide by hanging increased dramatically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Canada#Violent_crime,_suicide,_and_accidents_in_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Australia#Measuring_the_effects_of_firearms_laws_in_Australia <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>why does the US have a the highest murder rate in the developed world? </quote> Most gun deaths are suicides. Out of those that are homicides, many occur in poor urban areas as gang-related violence. The drug war in the US is a major instigator of gun-related crime and homicides. If you excluded gang violence from the statistics, the numbers would be more in-line with other countries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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