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Topicflorida gov rick scott said they'd consider anything to stop gun violence in FL
darkknight109
02/21/18 6:56:38 PM
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Selenara posted...
This chart is misleading, because it doesn't show that there was already a downward trend prior to the enactment of gun control. There are other factors besides gun control laws that affect numbers like these.

Here's a more blown up view, with the (stagnant) US death rate for reference.:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Gun_deaths_over_time_in_the_US_and_Australia.png

While there certainly was a decline beforehand, said decline increases significantly right when the NFA took effect.

Selenara posted...
The gun death homicide rate was less than 1 per 100,000 people according to this chart, which is fairly low.

Not really. Nearly all first-world countries have an overall murder rate around 1 per 100k - restricting it to just firearms would frequently give you a number less than 1.

The US is the only major outlier there because - surprise surprise - lots of guns means lots of killing.

Selenara posted...
30% can be misleading. Do you have have some hard numbers or per capita numbers? Or studies that showed a link between the new laws and the decline in gun deaths?

Did you not read the link? Because both of those are in there.

Gun deaths in 2012: 226 (6.3 per 100k)
Gun deaths in 2016: 164 (4.6 per 100k)

Violent crime has dropped across the US over those four years, but Connecticut's rates have fallen farther and faster than anywhere else in the US. And while I don't have a study for that particular gun law, a separate study estimated that different gun law tightening in 1994 may have accounted for as much as a 40% drop in gun crime, based on analysis of demographics, nearby states, and other such factors

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2015/06/12/gun-killings-fell-by-40-percent-after-connecticut-passed-this-law/?utm_term=.efeb6387689d (you can ignore the clickbaity title - I mostly went with this simply because it outlines the study I'm referring to)

Again, there's a wealth of data here that suggests that gun laws save lives. The states in the US with strict gun laws almost universally enjoy lower violent crime and homicide rates than those with permissive gun laws. Likewise, the US has a homicide rate nearly 7x the first world average (and triple the runner up), most of which is due to a wildly disproportionate firearm death rate. It's not hard to see the picture this paints.
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