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Topic	transience's top 60 games - 2018 edition
Kaxon 01/31/18 8:10:08 PM #475:	1. Suikoden 2 To me, Genso Suikoden II is the pinnacle of the JRPG genre. It basically does everything I like about the genre while minimizing everything I dont like. On the good side you have stuff like lots of recruitable characters, minigames, building up your own town/castle, multiple combat systems, multi-character combo attacks, multiple endings, 2d art (with light 3d effects at some points). On the list of stuff I dont like about JRPGs - it basically all falls under the category of grinding, and they do away with it completely. The minigames are optional, the characters are either optional or unmissible, theres never any need to grind for levels. The 108(+) playable characters is an example of how they take things to ridiculous extremes. Obviously Suikoden 1 did this first, but Suikoden 2 did a great job of bringing back cool characters from the original and creating a bunch more. Fortunately, many are optional and I think the game is actually better if you dont recruit every one. But as well as characters, minigames are another area where they kind of go overboard. Most of them are kind of pointless (as minigames usually are) but the Iron Chef minigame stands as one of the greatest minigames of all time. The combat is standard JRPG fare but very fast - but there are also two alternate combat systems: one for large army battles and one for one on one duels. Neither one is terribly deep but theyre both used infrequently enough that theyre a really cool change of pace to highlight important story moments. Its a bit of a paradox that Suikoden 2 is both huge and small at the same time - theres a ton of stuff you can do and yet the game is half the length of a lot of JRPGs just because everything moves so quickly. But the best part of the game is definitely the story. Its just a moving and emotional story, augmented with a great soundtrack by Miki Higashino. It has one of the most despicable villains in any game Ive played and an epic sequence to take him down - but thats not the end of the game. I cant say enough good things about Suikoden 2, it just has everything I want from a JRPG. --- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience <cite>Kaxon posted [p:895207605] in transience... [t:76231046]...</cite> <quote>1. Suikoden 2 To me, Genso Suikoden II is the pinnacle of the JRPG genre. It basically does everything I like about the genre while minimizing everything I dont like. On the good side you have stuff like lots of recruitable characters, minigames, building up your own town/castle, multiple combat systems, multi-character combo attacks, multiple endings, 2d art (with light 3d effects at some points). On the list of stuff I dont like about JRPGs - it basically all falls under the category of grinding, and they do away with it completely. The minigames are optional, the characters are either optional or unmissible, theres never any need to grind for levels. The 108(+) playable characters is an example of how they take things to ridiculous extremes. Obviously Suikoden 1 did this first, but Suikoden 2 did a great job of bringing back cool characters from the original and creating a bunch more. Fortunately, many are optional and I think the game is actually better if you dont recruit every one. But as well as characters, minigames are another area where they kind of go overboard. Most of them are kind of pointless (as minigames usually are) but the Iron Chef minigame stands as one of the greatest minigames of all time. The combat is standard JRPG fare but very fast - but there are also two alternate combat systems: one for large army battles and one for one on one duels. Neither one is terribly deep but theyre both used infrequently enough that theyre a really cool change of pace to highlight important story moments. Its a bit of a paradox that Suikoden 2 is both huge and small at the same time - theres a ton of stuff you can do and yet the game is half the length of a lot of JRPGs just because everything moves so quickly. But the best part of the game is definitely the story. Its just a moving and emotional story, augmented with a great soundtrack by Miki Higashino. It has one of the most despicable villains in any game Ive played and an epic sequence to take him down - but thats not the end of the game. I cant say enough good things about Suikoden 2, it just has everything I want from a JRPG. --- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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