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Topic16 of Trump's Accusers Demand Congressional Investigation
darkknight109
12/12/17 3:49:27 AM
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Smarkil posted...
Evidence mostly.

OK, so, it's only a crime if you leave evidence behind? If I grope a woman's breasts, that's not a crime unless someone happened to catch it on camera?

I mean, maybe ten people were around who all saw me do it and are willing to testify to that, but if there's no evidence it's still not credible in your eyes?

Smarkil posted...
Alright.

I'm accusing you of robbing my house.

When does the trial start?

Well, let's start by asking when Foxx broke into your house and what she took from you. Can you provide an itemized list? Did you file a police report? Did you talk to anyone about it in the aftermath? Did anyone else see Foxx rob your place (or even see your place after she robbed it)?

This is the thing that always bugs me about the "no physical evidence = no crime" group - there's a lot more to crime and criminal law than that. OK, if someone just accused Trump of groping her and couldn't provide any evidence she was ever even near him, let alone in a position to be groped by him, I'd be disinclined to believe her story. But if the women's testimony is corroborated by other details, it suddenly becomes much more believable.

Consider Roy Moore, for instance. Is any physical evidence of his crimes available? No. However, nearly a dozen women - all unaffiliated, some of whom have a history of voting Republican - have emerged to accuse him. Many of their stories have similar details in terms of their age, the type of behaviour Moore displayed, and how far he was willing to go (apparently stopping at groping and forced kissing). Corroborating details - like Moore getting banned from the mall or other store employees knowing him and his habit of creeping on teenage cashiers - have been substantiated by other witnesses. This suggests that their accusations are highly credible - they aren't floating in a vacuum where a few women toss out a random accusation; the women are able to point to specific places and details that simply wouldn't exist if the allegations were false.

Just as damningly, Moore himself earlier admitted knowing two of the girls and acknowledged he might have dated them but couldn't remember, before subsequently changing his story and denying he'd met any of them or ever dated any teenagers, which is a pretty significant change of story and substantially throws his credibility into doubt.

I'm not saying that every accusation warrants an immediate execution, no questions asked - but a serious allegation demands a serious response, and if the accuser is able to provide corroborating details their allegations should be considered credible. Keep in mind that various studies have shown that somewhere between 92% and 98% of sex assault allegations are legit, so the odds that you have one woman - let alone a dozen of them - all making false allegations are pretty slim.
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