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Topic	Trump declares Jerusalem as Israel's capital.
darkknight109 12/07/17 12:11:34 PM #39:	To the surprise of no-one, this has sparked widespread protests in Israel and Palestine. Lobomoon posted... All dog owners know that if you have more than one dog in your house you have to pick one to be a dominant leader / "top dog" and treat him better than the others. Otherwise all the dogs will be constantly fighting with each other for dominance. Just saying... You're comparing Israelis and Palestinians to dogs. Just saying... streamofthesky posted... Turkey's threatening to cut ties w/ Israel? For what? Israel didn't do anything, the U.S. did. The US did, at Israel's (long-standing) request. If Israel had, for example, said to the US, "This is a sensitive topic and, out of concerns for regional security, would request that you not make any changes at this time," Trump would have backed down. As to why Turkey cut ties with Israel and not the US, Israel affords them the greater leverage. They can't cut ties with the US - not without doing significant damage to their own security and economy. Cutting ties with Israel is a much more effective way to air their grievances and put pressure on Israel to come to the bargaining table. streamofthesky posted... If you thought there was EVER a peace solution that involved Israel ceding part of Jerusalem, you're out of your mind. They'd give up part of Jerusalem about as soon as Muslims would give away half of Mecca. Whether you believe that or not, that's not for any outside power to decide. That's up to the Israelis and the Palestinians in negotiations. streamofthesky posted... For decades, Israel's been treated oddly diplomatically, the only developed and/or democratic country in the world where the rest of the world refused to acknowledge the capital city they had chosen. They're also the only developed and democratic country in the world that is illegally occupying and developing land that isn't theirs and that has been repeatedly warned of that fact. Which is exactly why we have this whole mess with the capitol to begin with. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:891756393] in Trump decl... [t:76068650]...</cite> <quote>To the surprise of no-one, this has sparked widespread protests in Israel and Palestine. <cite>Lobomoon posted...</cite> <quote>All dog owners know that if you have more than one dog in your house you have to pick one to be a dominant leader / "top dog" and treat him better than the others. Otherwise all the dogs will be constantly fighting with each other for dominance. Just saying...</quote> You're comparing Israelis and Palestinians to dogs. Just saying... <cite>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote>Turkey's threatening to cut ties w/ Israel? For what? Israel didn't do anything, the U.S. did.</quote> The US did, at Israel's (long-standing) request. If Israel had, for example, said to the US, "This is a sensitive topic and, out of concerns for regional security, would request that you not make any changes at this time," Trump would have backed down. As to why Turkey cut ties with Israel and not the US, Israel affords them the greater leverage. They can't cut ties with the US - not without doing significant damage to their own security and economy. Cutting ties with Israel is a much more effective way to air their grievances and put pressure on Israel to come to the bargaining table. <cite>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote>If you thought there was EVER a peace solution that involved Israel ceding part of Jerusalem, you're out of your mind. They'd give up part of Jerusalem about as soon as Muslims would give away half of Mecca.</quote> Whether you believe that or not, that's not for any outside power to decide. That's up to the Israelis and the Palestinians in negotiations. <cite>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote>For decades, Israel's been treated oddly diplomatically, the only developed and/or democratic country in the world where the rest of the world refused to acknowledge the capital city they had chosen.</quote> They're also the only developed and democratic country in the world that is illegally occupying and developing land that isn't theirs and that has been repeatedly warned of that fact. Which is exactly why we have this whole mess with the capitol to begin with. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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