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TopicHow could a person be athiest?
mooreandrew58
10/06/17 3:08:41 AM
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Zeus posted...
Shaded_Phoenix posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
I believe something had to create this universe, I just highly doubt humans have ever or will ever truly know what that is.

This is not a new argument, or anything, but... then who created them? If God can simply be born from the eternal void of nothingness, when why can't the universe? Why would God create men in it's image and think of Earth as the center of the universe, when he has an entire universe full of variable life to mess with?

Even if I'm wrong, and there is some deity around, which I cannot safely prove nor disprove (though I am confident that there is no reliable proof in the hands of any man, lest we'd all have the same religion), I'm certain that not a single religious text still existing is even remotely accurate about the actions or opinions of that deity, which has complete and total access and control over the entire Universe without reservation.

A god that created this universe would be so totally and utterly foreign and alien that no human could comprehend it. That, or God is merely a man at a god-computer, playing a video game about universe creation with all the same compassion as a man playing The Sims.


The problem with that argument is that God being born out of nothing is a magical argument well-suited for religion. The universe being born out of nothing is a magical argument that doesn't work for science or anything else.

And the origins of the cosmos are still a problematic area for science which, under the current theory, is essentially that nothing exploded and become something. In fact, it's sometimes humorously referenced as, "Allow us one miracle and we can explain the rest!"

More importantly, if you're talking about the Christian mythos, God wasn't "born out of the void," he was stated as having always existed. So your criticism of that particular religion is based on an ignorance of the canon.


I know about that with Christianity, but I can't logically wrap my head around the concept of there not being a beginning and something always having existed. I mean if I die and Christianity turns out to be true, and I get to speak to god, i'm going to have to ask him what his earliest memory is.
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