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I_Abibde posted...

darkknight109 posted...

The parent wants the child to succeed and pushes them extremely hard to do so; even if the child doesn't excel, the parent did what they did out of love and a desire to secure the best possible future for their offspring, even at the cost of giving up the possibility of being loved and admired by their child.

Result: Japan has a negative birth rate, among a wide variety of other social problems that others have observed.

Pretty much all first world nations - including the US - have a negative birth rate. Most of them make up the difference in immigration, as native born fertility rates are low. Japan's big issue is that they have one of the strictest immigration policies in the world and, as a result, have almost no immigration so they don't even have that result.

So no, I wouldn't tie Japan's low birth rate to their parenting trends - that's more a byproduct of prosperity.

Also, bit of advice: don't take a fantasy trope (which this is) and assume that's how things work in real life. Few parents in Japan actually parent this way. This is meant as a storytelling device, nothing more.

chaosbowser posted...

I would snort at the significant inequality. Japanese culture has overt racism and gender values reminiscent of 1950s america.

The Japanese would argue that America has that same overt racism. The gender disparity is definitely a thing, but Japan is slowly improving on that front.

chaosbowser posted...

Their economy and population is shrinking. Japanese men aren't defaulting to waifus because they have such a great culture.

The white population in America is shrinking too. Across all ethnic groups, were it not for immigration, the US would be in the same vote as Japan.

So I guess you're saying American culture sucks?

chaosbowser posted...

At the very least Americans have the decency to acknowledge our rampant violent crime needs to be addressed in some way while the Japanese still attempt to give themselves a masturbatory pat on the back about how great their shit parents are.

Like Abide, you're treating a fantasy trope as if it's reality (and widespread reality at that). Hospitals don't work like Scrubs or House, the legal system doesn't function at all like Law and Order, so be very cautious about assuming that a trope from a fantasy-based JRPG actually at all reflects reality (because in this case you would be wrong).

As in the US, most parents in Japan deeply love their children and show it. Are there parents who ascribe to "Tiger Mom" philosophy of pushing their children to near-breaking point in some twisted desire to drive their children to succeed at all costs? Sure... but those people exist in the US, too.
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