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Rhylos posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Rhylos posted...

I'm a nihilist and it sucks. There's nothing that'd convince me otherwise either.

so do you think you're eternal or something? what was out there before you were born? has to be something out there, no?

We are eternal. We're made of stardust that's existed since the dawn of time, and we'll continue to exist after death.

But I was referring more towards the religious aspect of convincing me. When you take in the entire scope of the universe and how much time has transpired, you'd never convince me that all of it was for us humans. The universe has existed for over 13.7 billion years; primitive humans who started using stone tools existed about 2.5 million years ago. Humans have existed for 0.00018% of all time, and religion says all of time is for us? No, that just sounds self centered and a way of convincing ourselves we matter.

why does length of time or the physical size of the universe determine importance, though? the universe being old or large does not determine whether or not humans matter.

that's always been a bad argument. i cringe when people say "wow look how small the earth is, it proves we're insignificant" or variants of that. it's just a sloppy argument based on weak logic.

and i'm not just talking about stardust btw. what about before the universe existed in any capacity? surely there's more to existence than just our individual consciousness. you said you're a nihilist, so i'm trying to understand how you rationalize that point of view.