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TopicAre you accepting and supportive of transgender people?
Sayoria
09/05/17 1:55:53 AM
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Callixtus posted...
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Why do you keep avoiding simple questions lol

If it is okay to remove, alter, or destroy body parts to match a mental image in cases of gender dysphoria, why is it not okay to do the same in cases of apotemnophilia?

Can you explain this seeming inconsistency or are you just another ideologue?

I already made it clear to you I'm not going to play along with this "x is like y. Defend y!" nonsense.

It goes nowhere, it's an endless game to avoid owning up to the emptiness of your rejection of the original issue, and nothing more. And seems to be something society is doomed to have to go through for every group, one at a time, because nothing is learned about how to treat people, ever, only how to treat one group, at a time.

Very inefficient.

Well, it just seems as if you have no real principles before your beliefs, at least no one's you are willing nor able to defend.

I could never adopt your views, because in my opinion supporting sex reassignment surgery, as a good in itself, (and not on a contingent basis as the least bad current option) would also require me to support amputations for apotemnophiliacs. Otherwise I would be arbitrarily applying different principles to substantially the same cases. It's unfortunate that someone who has more insight into the moral imperatives for SRS can't explain to me what distinguishes it from other similar sorts of treatments.

Shame.


Amputations is removing an actual limb that aids one in every day functions. A sex change isn't simply just that. Technically, the penis is still there. It would just be functioning as a non-performing organ of the other sex. That person can still run, play basketball or whatever they want to in a functioning life. Half of the world's population don't have penises, so it's honestly a little different.

And the other half of the world has vaginas, which are used for reproduction among other things, which are not open to MtF transpeople.

You have also glossed over the fact that the testes are removed during SRS. They are a functional body part that are completely destroyed, rendering MtF transpeople sterile.


Vasectomies render people sterile too and that also is a choice.

Ridding of the testies does nothing that hinders a trans woman from living her life. All they are used for is pumping testosterone and reproducing. I have my surgery for sex change in May. I have no reason for the testicles but unlike amputees, I have reasons for my legs and arms.
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