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Topic	Poll: Do you think Trump will keep his promise to "Knock out ISIS"?
darkknight109 06/06/17 6:43:29 AM #15:	Zeus posted... The fact that ISIS affiliates have engaged in terror in the US seems to contradict the idea that they aren't a threat. Yeah, sure, a couple dozen people dead in flashy but ultimately immaterial attacks. Get back to me when they manage to kill more Americans in a year than cars do in a day. Zeus posted... More so, if ISIS does gain control of nations in the region Which they never will, given that they are in complete collapse and even at the apex of their power they couldn't do much more than briefly carve out a chunk of Syria and Iraq for themselves (and even then, only because Iraq's government couldn't get over its own sectarianism and Syria was embroiled in a war of its own). The idea that they could ever hope to form a permanent, functional nation-state is ludicrous. Their "caliphate" was founded with no allies and with virtually every major power in the region gunning for them - they were doomed from the outset. Zeus posted... And, of course, you downplay the problems caused by terrorism in recent decades including 9/11 which helped exacerbate a recession. Most of the long-term economic damage caused by 9/11 wasn't by the event itself, it was by America's (over)reaction to it. Did I say that terrorism wasn't a problem? No, it's just not as big of one as people make it out to be. Roughly 3000 Americans have died over the last two decades to terrorism, or about 150 people a year. By contrast, cancer kills half a million a year, about 5000 people die to workplace fatalities, and 1000 people a year die to fucking lightning. That's how much of a "threat" terrorism is - you're literally more likely to be struck by lightning than die to a terrorist, and not just a little bit more likely, but a full order of magnitude more. And yes, the fact that anyone dies to terrorism is a travesty and the victims deserve our respect and condolences, but a degree of perspective is in order here (especially given that America is apparently so incapable of reacting to terrorism with any degree of impartiality that they have thrown literally tens of trillions of dollars at the war on terror in the years since 9/11 and don't exactly have a lot to show for it). --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:880505067] in Poll: Do y... [t:75426566]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that ISIS affiliates have engaged in terror in the US seems to contradict the idea that they aren't a threat.</quote> Yeah, sure, a couple dozen people dead in flashy but ultimately immaterial attacks. Get back to me when they manage to kill more Americans in a year than cars do in a day. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>More so, if ISIS does gain control of nations in the region</quote> Which they never will, given that they are in complete collapse and even at the apex of their power they couldn't do much more than briefly carve out a chunk of Syria and Iraq for themselves (and even then, only because Iraq's government couldn't get over its own sectarianism and Syria was embroiled in a war of its own). The idea that they could ever hope to form a permanent, functional nation-state is ludicrous. Their "caliphate" was founded with no allies and with virtually every major power in the region gunning for them - they were doomed from the outset. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>And, of course, you downplay the problems caused by terrorism in recent decades including 9/11 which helped exacerbate a recession. </quote> Most of the long-term economic damage caused by 9/11 wasn't by the event itself, it was by America's (over)reaction to it. Did I say that terrorism wasn't a problem? No, it's just not as big of one as people make it out to be. Roughly 3000 Americans have died over the last two decades to terrorism, or about 150 people a year. By contrast, cancer kills half a million a year, about 5000 people die to workplace fatalities, and 1000 people a year die to fucking lightning. That's how much of a "threat" terrorism is - you're literally more likely to be struck by lightning than die to a terrorist, and not just a little bit more likely, but a full order of magnitude more. And yes, the fact that anyone dies to terrorism is a travesty and the victims deserve our respect and condolences, but a degree of perspective is in order here (especially given that America is apparently so incapable of reacting to terrorism with any degree of impartiality that they have thrown literally tens of trillions of dollars at the war on terror in the years since 9/11 and don't exactly have a lot to show for it). --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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