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Topic	YR: rape is now a guaranteed death penalty.
pinky0926 04/14/17 6:34:34 PM #36:	Gamer99z posted... But in certain cases we do though. Like the case I mentioned for example where someone rescued 3 women being held captive in a man's home who had been holding them captive and raping them for a decade. I know that's not common, and I'm not saying to throw the death penalty around for everything, but there are occasionally black and white cases such as that one and for @organicbamf to say it's never okay is just ignorant. What reason is there to sentence someone to life+ _____ years or to 1000 years like they did with ^ dude when they know without a doubt that he is guilty of the heinous crimes he's accused of and that a man like that can never be allowed back into society. No, you didn't know anything about that case at all. You heard some news stories, you saw the victims making statements to the media, you heard the neighbours and the police all talking about it. Certainly it all seemed very damning. But none of that constitutes a fair trial. A fair trial is when you're afforded the rights and the process that the legal system and your country's constitution promises all people. That's what we call liberty. Things must be proven in a court of law that follows the legal process, end of story. You don't get to say "this is a human right, except for X person." That's not how rights work. Everyone gets the right, otherwise it's completely redundant. Understand, however frustrating that sounds - this protects you also. If you ever get so much as a parking ticket, you are afforded rights to go through a legal process that can't be dismissed because someone "saw you do it" or doesn't like you, or whatever frivolous reason. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z316/CeliaOfTheSky/Pinky0926.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:877204805] in YR: rape i... [t:75232077]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamer99z posted...</cite> <quote> But in certain cases we do though. Like the case I mentioned for example where someone rescued 3 women being held captive in a man's home who had been holding them captive and raping them for a decade. I know that's not common, and I'm not saying to throw the death penalty around for everything, but there are occasionally black and white cases such as that one and for @organicbamf to say it's never okay is just ignorant. What reason is there to sentence someone to life+ _____ years or to 1000 years like they did with ^ dude when they know without a doubt that he is guilty of the heinous crimes he's accused of and that a man like that can never be allowed back into society.</quote> No, you didn't know anything about that case at all. You heard some news stories, you saw the victims making statements to the media, you heard the neighbours and the police all talking about it. Certainly it all seemed very damning. But none of that constitutes a fair trial. A fair trial is when you're afforded the rights and the process that the legal system and your country's constitution promises all people. That's what we call liberty. Things must be proven in a court of law that follows the legal process, end of story. You don't get to say "this is a human right, except for X person." That's not how rights work. Everyone gets the right, otherwise it's completely redundant. Understand, however frustrating that sounds - this protects you also. If you ever get so much as a parking ticket, you are afforded rights to go through a legal process that can't be dismissed because someone "saw you do it" or doesn't like you, or whatever frivolous reason. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z316/CeliaOfTheSky/Pinky0926.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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