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Topic	YR: rape is now a guaranteed death penalty.
organicbamf 04/14/17 6:25:34 PM #31:	Gamer99z posted... Why you mad tho? The reasons why are obvious. If you've blatantly proven beyond any doubt that you cannot be rehabilitated and safely integrated back into society then there's no reason not just just kill you. That's more humane than locking someone up for the rest of their life on the tax payers dime honestly. Iirc in California for example it costs 60k a year per prisoner and 150k per year for prisoners on death row. I'll bring up a news story from a few years back, remember that dude Ariel Castro who abducted 3 girls and kept them prisoner in his home and raped them for over a decade? There was no reason to keep that man alive, but luckily he took care of that problem himself. The propose of prison should rehabilitation and turning people into contributing members of society and after you commit certain abhorrent crimes, you prove that you're not capable of that and not worth the air you breathe, the water you drink, the food you eat, and the space you occupy. It would be stupid NOT to just kill them. if you can't be proven to do so, what are the underlying reasons for that? your brain doesn't work properly? your background wasn't nurturing enough to do so? some combination of the two? something outside of the person them-self was obviously an influence on how they grew up to be. if they can't see why or how they don't or can't follow the normal law, is that their fault? and no, i don't recall your knee-jerk story, but i would like numbers on your incarceration vs. death row appeal rate. not that it actually matters in my view, but i think you pulled numbers out of your ass. the primary purpose of prison should be rehabilitation, no doubt. but we don't live in that fantasy land. we live in a land of retribution. so whatever case you're looking at now doesn't actually speak much to the effect of actual justice (imo). if someone has a disconnect (i.e. non-neurotypical trait) between their PFC and amygdala because it was induced by birth, by environment, whatever... they cannot know the same humanity you and and i know. or maybe they can after some rehabilitative measure, but even if not, it's outside of their capability. seriously, look back at your own statement of "if you're not capable of that...". i'm not punishing a dog for not doing advanced mathematics because they're not capable of it. don't be a fucking idiot. --- get ready for a backside attack ;) <cite>organicbamf posted [p:877204300] in YR: rape i... [t:75232077]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamer99z posted...</cite> <quote>Why you mad tho? The reasons why are obvious. If you've blatantly proven beyond any doubt that you cannot be rehabilitated and safely integrated back into society then there's no reason not just just kill you. That's more humane than locking someone up for the rest of their life on the tax payers dime honestly. Iirc in California for example it costs 60k a year per prisoner and 150k per year for prisoners on death row. I'll bring up a news story from a few years back, remember that dude Ariel Castro who abducted 3 girls and kept them prisoner in his home and raped them for over a decade? There was no reason to keep that man alive, but luckily he took care of that problem himself. The propose of prison should rehabilitation and turning people into contributing members of society and after you commit certain abhorrent crimes, you prove that you're not capable of that and not worth the air you breathe, the water you drink, the food you eat, and the space you occupy. It would be stupid NOT to just kill them.</quote> if you can't be proven to do so, what are the underlying reasons for that? your brain doesn't work properly? your background wasn't nurturing enough to do so? some combination of the two? something outside of the person them-self was obviously an influence on how they grew up to be. if they can't see why or how they don't or can't follow the normal law, is that their fault? and no, i don't recall your knee-jerk story, but i would like numbers on your incarceration vs. death row appeal rate. not that it actually matters in my view, but i think you pulled numbers out of your ass. the primary purpose of prison should be rehabilitation, no doubt. but we don't live in that fantasy land. we live in a land of retribution. so whatever case you're looking at now doesn't actually speak much to the effect of actual justice (imo). if someone has a disconnect (i.e. non-neurotypical trait) between their PFC and amygdala because it was induced by birth, by environment, whatever... they cannot know the same humanity you and and i know. or maybe they can after some rehabilitative measure, but even if not, it's outside of their capability. seriously, look back at your own statement of "if you're not capable of that...". i'm not punishing a dog for not doing advanced mathematics because they're not capable of it. don't be a fucking idiot. --- get ready for a backside attack ;)</quote> ... 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