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Topic	Do you think the term "Mansplaining" is sexist
Pogo_Marimo 04/09/17 3:59:38 PM #31:	COVxy posted... Pogo_Marimo posted... I know why the term came to be. I have made that abundantly clear. And yet you are clearly not demonstrating an understanding of it. It has nothing to do with making a good point And the fact that you continue to talk about it in reference to a dialog, continues to mean that you aren't really appreciating how the term is useful. Because it's not just someone being treated with condescension, because that happens to everyone. It's not labeling another person in an active conversation to shut them up. It's simply labeling a phenomenon that needs to be discussed. We can call it 'condescension', but that doesn't cover it. We can call it 'sexist condescension' but it still doesn't quite cover it, as it is primarily a woman's issue. Your dislike of the term comes primarily from people who misuse it. No, your acceptance of the term comes from a No True Scotsman fallacy. You view any use of the term as derogatory as a misuse, even though it is the most common use of the word (By anecdotal evidence, but I'm sure we could search #mansplainin' to prove this if you must insist). This may be a convenient tool for you to handwave any reality you don't like or would rather not confront, but if you are rational you should be capable of stepping back and viewing the social stratification a term like this causes. In fact, this topic is wonderful proof that this term literally causes more harm than good. So how is it useful for "labeling" the issue? There are plenty of great ways to label an issue without leaving the backdoor open for exploitation by hatemongerers. We can talk about social issues without using easily exploitable terms to discuss them--Our capacity for language is impressive. Why should I be satisfied, then, with a word or phrase that is mostly used for hate, just because it comes from benign origins? There is a vast array of extremely offensive words that stem benign origins. If it is no longer used benignly, though, then it is no longer worth accepting. Use something better. Use something less exploitable. Take some damn responsibility for careless communication. --- // BEAUTY IS NOT LOVE - LOVE IS NOT MUSIC - MUSIC IS THE BEST - WISDOM IS THE DOMAIN OF THE WIZ--WHICH IS EXTINCT // http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:876863280] in Do you thi... [t:75217482]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pogo_Marimo posted...</cite> <quote>I know why the term came to be. I have made that abundantly clear.</quote> And yet you are clearly not demonstrating an understanding of it. It has nothing to do with <quote>making a good point</quote> And the fact that you continue to talk about it in reference to a dialog, continues to mean that you aren't really appreciating how the term is useful. Because it's not just someone being treated with condescension, because that happens to everyone. It's not labeling another person in an active conversation to shut them up. It's simply labeling a phenomenon that needs to be discussed. We can call it 'condescension', but that doesn't cover it. We can call it 'sexist condescension' but it still doesn't quite cover it, as it is primarily a woman's issue. Your dislike of the term comes primarily from people who misuse it.</quote> No, your acceptance of the term comes from a No True Scotsman fallacy. You view any use of the term as derogatory as a misuse, even though it is the most common use of the word (By anecdotal evidence, but I'm sure we could search #mansplainin' to prove this if you must insist). This may be a convenient tool for you to handwave any reality you don't like or would rather not confront, but if you are rational you should be capable of stepping back and viewing the social stratification a term like this causes. In fact, this topic is wonderful proof that this term literally causes more harm than good. So how is it useful for "labeling" the issue? There are plenty of great ways to label an issue without leaving the backdoor open for exploitation by hatemongerers. We can talk about social issues without using easily exploitable terms to discuss them--Our capacity for language is impressive. Why should I be satisfied, then, with a word or phrase that is mostly used for hate, just because it comes from benign origins? There is a vast array of extremely offensive words that stem benign origins. If it is no longer used benignly, though, then it is no longer worth accepting. Use something better. Use something less exploitable. Take some damn responsibility for careless communication. --- // BEAUTY IS NOT LOVE - LOVE IS NOT MUSIC - MUSIC IS THE BEST - WISDOM IS THE DOMAIN OF THE WIZ--WHICH IS EXTINCT // http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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