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Topic	Do you think the term "Mansplaining" is sexist
Pogo_Marimo 04/09/17 3:38:44 PM #29:	COVxy posted... <The original point of the term was not to counter any arguments. The original point was to point out a situation that seemed to be pervasive within certain circles, primarily within academic circles. Which is when a man would often approach a woman and make a point that both often had codified language and was clearly a point that any reasonable person should assume is within the speaker's knowledge. As a toy example, the idea is female grad student presenting a poster at a cellular biology conference about some newly discovered form of water transport in mammalian cells. "Okay, but Hun, the cell membrane is composed of a phosopholipid bilayer, which makes it hydrophobic, meaning that it repels water." The occurrence of these types of events were common enough that the community derived a term to describe them. That's all. This isn't some sort of nefarious term that was created to undermine men's opinions, though it has been appropriated by certain groups who have used it as such. Marklar posted... You're responding to a troll Are you calling me a troll? Wish I knew where you got that idea. I know why the term came to be. I have made that abundantly clear. Women face a very real issue in many professional environments wherein men innately view them as intellectually inferior to some capacity and explain existing knowledge in a condescending manner. This discussion is not about that. This discussion is about the nature of language and words, and the power they hold. "Mansplaining" is a derogative term. There is no point sugar-coating that. It can be used with widely varying degrees of spite, but it describes a common negative experience women share. The issue is when the demarcation line is drawn along an axis of innate trait, like gender, because words take on the characteristics of associated words. When you association male with condescending explanations instrinscally, the association becomes codified and catagorized. It's why "ghetto" is associated with "blacks", for instance, which only serves to institutionalize bigoted generalizations, in this case in Feminism. "Mainsplain'" didn't become adopted by spiteful/radical feminism by accident, it happened because it expresses succintly a bigoted notion in two syllables, and was adopted thusly. It's an accusative term regardless of its more pacified origins and we need to talk about these issues from a perspective of sharing understanding. --- // BEAUTY IS NOT LOVE - LOVE IS NOT MUSIC - MUSIC IS THE BEST - WISDOM IS THE DOMAIN OF THE WIZ--WHICH IS EXTINCT // http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:876862218] in Do you thi... [t:75217482]...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><The original point of the term was not to counter any arguments. The original point was to point out a situation that seemed to be pervasive within certain circles, primarily within academic circles. Which is when a man would often approach a woman and make a point that both often had codified language and was clearly a point that any reasonable person should assume is within the speaker's knowledge. As a toy example, the idea is female grad student presenting a poster at a cellular biology conference about some newly discovered form of water transport in mammalian cells. "Okay, but Hun, the cell membrane is composed of a phosopholipid bilayer, which makes it hydrophobic, meaning that it repels water." The occurrence of these types of events were common enough that the community derived a term to describe them. That's all. This isn't some sort of nefarious term that was created to undermine men's opinions, though it has been appropriated by certain groups who have used it as such. <cite>Marklar posted...</cite> <quote>You're responding to a troll </quote> Are you calling me a troll? Wish I knew where you got that idea.</quote> I know why the term came to be. I have made that abundantly clear. Women face a very real issue in many professional environments wherein men innately view them as intellectually inferior to some capacity and explain existing knowledge in a condescending manner. This discussion is not about that. This discussion is about the nature of language and words, and the power they hold. "Mansplaining" is a derogative term. There is no point sugar-coating that. It can be used with widely varying degrees of spite, but it describes a common negative experience women share. The issue is when the demarcation line is drawn along an axis of innate trait, like gender, because words take on the characteristics of associated words. When you association male with condescending explanations instrinscally, the association becomes codified and catagorized. It's why "ghetto" is associated with "blacks", for instance, which only serves to institutionalize bigoted generalizations, in this case in Feminism. "Mainsplain'" didn't become adopted by spiteful/radical feminism by accident, it happened because it expresses succintly a bigoted notion in two syllables, and was adopted thusly. It's an accusative term regardless of its more pacified origins and we need to talk about these issues from a perspective of sharing understanding. --- // BEAUTY IS NOT LOVE - LOVE IS NOT MUSIC - MUSIC IS THE BEST - WISDOM IS THE DOMAIN OF THE WIZ--WHICH IS EXTINCT // http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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