Shuma is widely considered bottom tier. Only think he has going for him is his assist (which is overrated) and anti Dark Phoenix level 3.
Jill's one of those "why bother, other characters do what she does better" characters,
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LOL!!!! I hope that's a joke....names don't get more n00bish than that