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TopicRoe V Wade
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12/07/21 10:04:28 AM
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wpot posted...
The only logical way to think about this is (of course) rarely where the conversation goes. It's not a yes or no question. The grey in the middle is everything.

Would it be wrong to club a baby over the head as soon as it's born? Sure would. Would it be wrong to inject it with something to kill it half of an hour before it's born (assuming the mother's life isn't at risk)? Seems much the same to me.

OK...is it wrong to flush a fertilized egg out of a mother's body a day after sex? No, I don't think that's wrong (and that is how some birth control works).

If we accept those two things, then we could quickly agree that this should be a discussion about when (not if) abortions are allowed. We (as a nation) could probably quickly agree that it's OK in the first trimester and not OK during the third (unless mother's life at risk) if the wing nut screamers were removed from the equation.

Then this is just a discussion about when it stops being allowed in the second trimester, taking everything (and yes, there's a lot to consider) into account. And, while I believe it's important to have a good answer to that question, the amount of energy directed to the issue is ridiculous and we have bigger things to worry about.

With that said, here's what I hope will happen. ROE v WADE will be overturned. The illogical 'conservative' marriage between the fundamentally religious and greedy businessmen, which was based on little more than this issue, will lose energy and start to dissipate. Conservatives will take heat for the terrible stories that will probably come about as as result (I don't hope for those). Politics realign. Hopefully a logical law is eventually written to replace something that should have been a law in the first place (not a court decision).

A guy can dream.

I think that's how many of the conversations have gone before... A lot of times, it goes into when is it ok. Sometimes, you have people saying i's fine to abort all the way to birth (which is ok when the mother's life is in danger, but not usually all the time). And on the other side, you have some saying it's never ok. But many are in the middle. Either basing it on circumstances, or the amount of weeks old it is (which is because of how developed it is)...
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