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Topic	Roe V Wade
LinkPizza 12/07/21 3:28:45 AM #29:	OhhhJa posted... Men also can't get pregnant This is true. Which is why I said, "Unlike women, a man can't actually choose to have the abortion." Was there something else you wanted to mention about this... OhhhJa posted... Something no real man will ever ask of a woman False. Some might if they don't want to have a baby with a specific person, or think they are financially prepared. Not everyone is exactly the same. You shouldn't shame someone for wanting to be financially stable before having a baby. Or didn't want to have a baby, but got the rotten luck of having a condom break (or other contraceptives fail)... OhhhJa posted... Sure that's fine but that not really what we're talking about I know. I was just saying it's different. It's just something of context that goes with the rest of my post. I don't even know why you acting like it's weird that I added that in... Seems very nitpicky... OhhhJa posted... I'm guessing you meant to say she wants to keep it and he doesn't... why should he get to opt out? The burden is on the woman when it comes to abortion. She has the responsibility to either keep a child or to get the abortion. The father doesn't have to consider these two options at all. What if the mother isn't able to get an abortion? The father should still be able to just opt out and disappear? Lol thats fucking stupid I think just like the woman can opt out of having the baby, the man should be able to opt out of financial caring for it. I already explained above why I believe they should be able to. It's in my post already. I don't see why it would be a big deal, either... I never said it wasn't a burden for women. But they are basically the ones making the sole choice of whether or not to have it. But that means that the men are at their mercy when it comes to whether or not they are paying. I'm saying they should also have a way out if they never wanted the baby... As for if the father can disappear, I would say it depends on why she didn't get the abortion. For example, if it was because she waited long even though she knew she was pregnant and nothing was stopping her from getting one earlier except she wouldn't go, then I think it's still fine. If it was a bunch of red tape that stopped her, then it sucks, but both are stuck with the baby that it seems neither of them wanted... That said, it she was actually trying to get an abortion, there's always the chance that they wouldn't mind putting the baby up for adoption, which would also solve the problem of the baby that neither of them wanted... And also, don't get me wrong. I think the women should get the same rights if they wanted. Let's say they wanted the abortion, but couldn't get it. And she didn't want the baby, but the father did. I think she should also be able to completely erase herself from the baby's life... You can disagree, but I don't think it's stupid, nor am I changing my opinion on this... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:960693232] in Roe V Wade... [t:79797458]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Men also can't get pregnant</quote> This is true. Which is why I said, "Unlike women, a man can't actually choose to have the abortion." Was there something else you wanted to mention about this... OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Something no real man will ever ask of a woman</quote> False. Some might if they don't want to have a baby with a specific person, or think they are financially prepared. Not everyone is exactly the same. You shouldn't shame someone for wanting to be financially stable before having a baby. Or didn't want to have a baby, but got the rotten luck of having a condom break (or other contraceptives fail)... OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Sure that's fine but that not really what we're talking about</quote> I know. I was just saying it's different. It's just something of context that goes with the rest of my post. I don't even know why you acting like it's weird that I added that in... Seems very nitpicky... OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>I'm guessing you meant to say she wants to keep it and he doesn't... why should he get to opt out? The burden is on the woman when it comes to abortion. She has the responsibility to either keep a child or to get the abortion. The father doesn't have to consider these two options at all. What if the mother isn't able to get an abortion? The father should still be able to just opt out and disappear? Lol thats fucking stupid</quote> I think just like the woman can opt out of having the baby, the man should be able to opt out of financial caring for it. I already explained above why I believe they should be able to. It's in my post already. I don't see why it would be a big deal, either... I never said it wasn't a burden for women. But they are basically the ones making the sole choice of whether or not to have it. But that means that the men are at their mercy when it comes to whether or not they are paying. I'm saying they should also have a way out if they never wanted the baby... As for if the father can disappear, I would say it depends on why she didn't get the abortion. For example, if it was because she waited long even though she knew she was pregnant and nothing was stopping her from getting one earlier except she wouldn't go, then I think it's still fine. If it was a bunch of red tape that stopped her, then it sucks, but both are stuck with the baby that it seems neither of them wanted... That said, it she was actually trying to get an abortion, there's always the chance that they wouldn't mind putting the baby up for adoption, which would also solve the problem of the baby that neither of them wanted... And also, don't get me wrong. I think the women should get the same rights if they wanted. Let's say they wanted the abortion, but couldn't get it. And she didn't want the baby, but the father did. I think she should also be able to completely erase herself from the baby's life... You can disagree, but I don't think it's stupid, nor am I changing my opinion on this... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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