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Topic	So is Messi now the GOAT in soccer?
ShyOx 07/12/21 4:47:09 AM #15:	TrollTrace posted... I think in soccer physicality is not that important, as you can see messi is a fraction the size of ronaldo but seems to be the superior soccer player when it comes to actually playing the game. Like, if you scaled messi to ronaldos size messi would murk everyone lol both guys are good, messi is op with the handles and i guess cristiano is op as a fantastic soccer athlete. I think cristiano is older so i dont think he is gonna get any more opportunities at the ballon d or whereas messi has a couple more years at the top with no real competition. He's only two years older though. Having a big man who's as fast and capable as Ronaldo is huge, generally bigger is slower/tires faster/less eloquent with the ball. But Ronaldo doesn't have that issues, and if you can bull your way through people and stop them with size it's a big big deal. As a physical specimen, Ronaldo takes it. Because football is such a finesse sport, Messi has this huge leap up because he has that extra layer of finesse and has a really great mind for the game. We're talking degrees here though; these are thin layers and what makes them different is approach to the game. You can't doubt Ronaldo because when he's on a team it completely changes them, same as Messi. Ronaldo relies more on his ability to bull people than foot finesse to steal for example, but their reflexes are probably pretty damn close, their eye is pretty close, their accuracy is near spot on. Messi seems a more like a thinker and Ronaldo is more instinct. That's what I get from watching them play, at least and I don't watch a ton. Messi takes advantage of openings and circumstance, while Ronaldo creates them because he can bull people over, tall af for the sport so can nab headers and would make a great defender etc. It's a different style. Messi is more a master of the art, but it's a sport and inherently physical and Ronaldo is the better specimen. The results speak for themselves. --- http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6938/vyqp.jpg DIPLOMACY <cite>ShyOx posted [p:955998032] in So is Mess... [t:79560602]...</cite> <quote>TrollTrace posted... </cite> <quote>I think in soccer physicality is not that important, as you can see messi is a fraction the size of ronaldo but seems to be the superior soccer player when it comes to actually playing the game. Like, if you scaled messi to ronaldos size messi would murk everyone lol both guys are good, messi is op with the handles and i guess cristiano is op as a fantastic soccer athlete. I think cristiano is older so i dont think he is gonna get any more opportunities at the ballon d or whereas messi has a couple more years at the top with no real competition.</quote> He's only two years older though. Having a big man who's as fast and capable as Ronaldo is huge, generally bigger is slower/tires faster/less eloquent with the ball. But Ronaldo doesn't have that issues, and if you can bull your way through people and stop them with size it's a big big deal. As a physical specimen, Ronaldo takes it. Because football is such a finesse sport, Messi has this huge leap up because he has that extra layer of finesse and has a really great mind for the game. We're talking degrees here though; these are thin layers and what makes them different is approach to the game. You can't doubt Ronaldo because when he's on a team it completely changes them, same as Messi. Ronaldo relies more on his ability to bull people than foot finesse to steal for example, but their reflexes are probably pretty damn close, their eye is pretty close, their accuracy is near spot on. Messi seems a more like a thinker and Ronaldo is more instinct. That's what I get from watching them play, at least and I don't watch a ton. Messi takes advantage of openings and circumstance, while Ronaldo creates them because he can bull people over, tall af for the sport so can nab headers and would make a great defender etc. It's a different style. Messi is more a master of the art, but it's a sport and inherently physical and Ronaldo is the better specimen. The results speak for themselves. --- http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6938/vyqp.jpg DIPLOMACY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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