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TopicI don't understand why your ID can't be expired to buy alcohol
Sahuagin
06/05/21 9:23:24 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Rev was talking about how his doesnt expire until 2049.
yea but it still expires. the suggested rule would mean that his wouldn't expire, even in 2049. or even in 2149 for that matter.

the expiry duration is just a slider; an answer to the question "how often should IDs be updated", which could be argued all kinds of ways. but not having an expiry at all is a fair bit different.

really I guess, the reason that an ID that is expired is rejected has less to do with the single instance concrete example of one guy buying something and the probability that he isn't of the correct age. it's more about: IDs need to expire, and ID expiries need to be enforced or they may as well never expire.

saying that IDs should _never_ expire is pretty close to saying that we shouldn't have IDs in the first place, or that there shouldn't be an age limit for purchasing certain things in the first place.

(and you guys understand the difference between looking at this from the large VS small scale, right? the law is not about what happens in a single instance. it's about implementing a large-scale system, and the implications of what will tend to happen at large-scales.)

(yeah, actually, this kind of thing can come up in other places as well. laws are written to adjust the whole system, but the enforcement of a single violation of a law occurs at the smallest possible scale of one person doing one thing. comparing the law itself to that single violation can seem silly sometimes, but that's not necessarily why the law is there; it's about the broader system.)

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