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Topic	Board 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (Phase III!)
Inviso 02/19/21 12:29:41 PM #24:	GavsEvans123 No ranking list would be complete without at least one hot take, and this is sure to be my hottest: Im not a huge fan of Thor: Ragnarok. While I do think its better than Thor: The Dark World, I disagree with the consensus that its the best of the trilogy by far. Thor: The Dark World wasnt well-received, and while the first Thor was considered passable enough, nobody really went crazy for it. Marvel could see that something needed to be done to improve the Thor films and take them to the next level, but their solution was to throw the baby out with the bathwater and rehash Guardians of the Galaxy, with the same quirky sense of humour and the same use of classic licensed songs (even if theyre not pivotal to the plot here the way they are in Guardians of the Galaxy.) The loss of the old hammy, theatrical Thor style sadly makes the MCU a little less unique. There are two major storylines running in tandem here, first with the return of Hela and her conquest of Asgard, and the second being the Planet Hulk storyline with Thor, Loki and Bruce on Sakaar. These two storylines are so different in tone that it feels like two films in one rather than a cohesive whole, and I would have preferred to have one plot expanded on to really focus on. If we had only the Hela storyline, we could have really seen how Thor feels to see his home apart by Helas tyranny. Most of Thors supporting cast is gone this time around, and although Janes crew arent missed, the returning Asgardians get done dirty. The Warriors Three are wasted, jobbing even harder than Baron Strucker did in Age of Ultron (at least Hogun lasts a few minutes longer than the other two, to make up for being shafted in the last film), Odin dies early on to kick off the plot, and Sif is gone without explanation. Tying in with my point earlier about developing the Hela plot, I think it would have been a really good idea to have Hela resurrect the Warriors Three as lieutenants for her undead army. Just think of the anguish Thor would feel at not only the deaths of his friends, but them having been corrupted and him being forced to fight them! On the other hand, Heimdall gets more to do this time as he works to save Asgardian civilians, and then theres Skurge, the best henchman of the MCU. He gets a plot arc and character development, going from comic relief buffoon, to allying with Hela out of self-preservation, becoming increasingly conflicted with his decision, and finally redeeming himself in time to stand alone at Gjallerbru. There are some prominent MCU characters who dont get as much development as he does! The focus in this film is definitely on humour, and while there are some great moments such as Lokis Hulk-induced PTSD, or Hulk trying to smash Surtur, there are also times when the humour prevents the emotional scenes from having the impact they should. The biggest offender in this regard is the destruction of Asgard, accompanied by Korgs running commentary. The loss of his home should have been Thors equivalent of the fall of SHIELD, but it doesnt feel like it because its done in a humorous, non-serious way. But hey, at least the trailer mash-up with Samurai Jack was cool. ScepterOfLove (No write-up.) VengefulKaelee About 20-30 minutes too long and too jokey even by the overly quippy standards of the MCU's usual dialogue, though overall certainly an entertaining enough movie. The best thing by far about this movie is Cate Blanchett as Hela in a franchise that's not exactly known for its villains, Blanchett absolutely steals the show and delivers one of the more memorable villain performances of the MCU. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950836357] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79304892]...</cite> <quote>GavsEvans123 No ranking list would be complete without at least one hot take, and this is sure to be my hottest: Im not a huge fan of Thor: Ragnarok. While I do think its better than Thor: The Dark World, I disagree with the consensus that its the best of the trilogy by far. Thor: The Dark World wasnt well-received, and while the first Thor was considered passable enough, nobody really went crazy for it. Marvel could see that something needed to be done to improve the Thor films and take them to the next level, but their solution was to throw the baby out with the bathwater and rehash Guardians of the Galaxy, with the same quirky sense of humour and the same use of classic licensed songs (even if theyre not pivotal to the plot here the way they are in Guardians of the Galaxy.) The loss of the old hammy, theatrical Thor style sadly makes the MCU a little less unique. There are two major storylines running in tandem here, first with the return of Hela and her conquest of Asgard, and the second being the Planet Hulk storyline with Thor, Loki and Bruce on Sakaar. These two storylines are so different in tone that it feels like two films in one rather than a cohesive whole, and I would have preferred to have one plot expanded on to really focus on. If we had only the Hela storyline, we could have really seen how Thor feels to see his home apart by Helas tyranny. Most of Thors supporting cast is gone this time around, and although Janes crew arent missed, the returning Asgardians get done dirty. The Warriors Three are wasted, jobbing even harder than Baron Strucker did in Age of Ultron (at least Hogun lasts a few minutes longer than the other two, to make up for being shafted in the last film), Odin dies early on to kick off the plot, and Sif is gone without explanation. Tying in with my point earlier about developing the Hela plot, I think it would have been a really good idea to have Hela resurrect the Warriors Three as lieutenants for her undead army. Just think of the anguish Thor would feel at not only the deaths of his friends, but them having been corrupted and him being forced to fight them! On the other hand, Heimdall gets more to do this time as he works to save Asgardian civilians, and then theres Skurge, the best henchman of the MCU. He gets a plot arc and character development, going from comic relief buffoon, to allying with Hela out of self-preservation, becoming increasingly conflicted with his decision, and finally redeeming himself in time to stand alone at Gjallerbru. There are some prominent MCU characters who dont get as much development as he does! The focus in this film is definitely on humour, and while there are some great moments such as Lokis Hulk-induced PTSD, or Hulk trying to smash Surtur, there are also times when the humour prevents the emotional scenes from having the impact they should. The biggest offender in this regard is the destruction of Asgard, accompanied by Korgs running commentary. The loss of his home should have been Thors equivalent of the fall of SHIELD, but it doesnt feel like it because its done in a humorous, non-serious way. But hey, at least the trailer mash-up with Samurai Jack was cool. ScepterOfLove (No write-up.) VengefulKaelee About 20-30 minutes too long and too jokey even by the overly quippy standards of the MCU's usual dialogue, though overall certainly an entertaining enough movie. The best thing by far about this movie is Cate Blanchett as Hela in a franchise that's not exactly known for its villains, Blanchett absolutely steals the show and delivers one of the more memorable villain performances of the MCU. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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