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TopicBoard 8 Ranks: The Marvel Cinematic Universe (Phase III!)
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02/19/21 12:28:40 PM
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Maniac64
I love Planet Hulk, one of my favorite Marvel stories. So I was excited that they were doing a take on it, even if it was in a Thor movie. It just saddens me that this was all we will get of the excellent storyline. Also while the movie is very funny some of the jokes go to long for me or just miss. But Hulk and Thor are a great entertaining team up.

Paratroopa1
Upon rewatching, I realized that this was one of the funniest movies in the MCU when I laughed out loud like three times in the first ten minutes, when most of the other movies only kinda make me smile on the inside. Handing this franchise over to Taika Waititi was a bold and brilliant move - dude's funny as hell and he's totally willing to take the piss out of Thor: The Dark World, which was some of the funniest stuff. I didn't really vibe with the villain or the more serious stuff happening on Asgard, I largely tune that stuff out - the real shit here is the A-plot, which is like Guardians of the Galaxy but with Thor and Hulk instead. I don't seem to like it quite as much as everyone else does - I don't think this one has quite the emotional resonance for me that Guardians does - but it's an extremely watchable film, just entertaining from start to finish. It's a small miracle that they made a really good Thor film - I'm actually looking forward to the next one, which isn't something I thought I would say.

Cybat
I recognize that this movie is better put together than this ranking might indicate, but it just rubbed me the wrong way with a lot of its choices. I dont have a problem with the Thor movies being primarily comedies, especially given Chris Hemsworths sharp comedic timing, but of all the Thor storylines they could cover, it seems like Ragnarok should be the one that takes itself at least a little seriously. Even the scene where Asgard is completely destroyed had to end with a joke.
But it wasnt just the fact that they were joking around, it was the attitude Taika et al seemed to have about the whole property. Sure, they hit the marks along the way: Hela, Surtr, Fenris, etc., but it all felt kind of ancillary and thrown together. They obviously didnt care at all about the history of the character, both in-canon in how they gloss over all the Asgard stuff as much as possible, and in reality with purging basically everything from the previous movies gleefully. Jane and Selvig were understandable, but like I said, I am one of the few people who cared about the Warriors Three, so to see them get killed off for a joke was a little annoying.
Like I said, I wouldnt necessarily have minded all of this as much in a differently named Thor movie, but it just didnt seem right to me for the movie called Ragnarok to turn out like this. Its still a hugely enjoyable movie, just not what I wanted.

Mega Mana
First Scene That Comes to Mind: "YESSSS!"

While leagues better than his first two outings, I still have an aversion to really investing myself in it. I don't know why. It's a really solid movie with great comedy, pathos, action, moments, and characters. It's by far Thor's sweet spot as a tragicomic character, and Hulk's best outing. Valkyrie is a wonderful new character I look forward to seeing more from, Loki's arc towards a form of redemption (or even just a brother figure who isn't bad enemy man) is fulfilled far better than the previous two entries, and what could be a super-convoluted plot stitching together Ragnarok, Planet Hulk, Contest of Champions, and Infinity Saga set-ups is breezily handled.

So why don't I like it much? I really don't know. I want to complain about them eschewing much of Asgard, but after the two write-ups I made for Thor and Dark World, the time in Asgard was usually the weakest part of the movie. Maybe it's because every time we visit Asgard, it's under threat from Frost Giants or Dark Elves, but now that it's Hela (and without Odin around), it's taken out in no time flat. The Warriors Three get taken out in seconds, Lady Sif is nowhere to be found, Loki's so bad at being Odin that Thor figures him out in the five seconds he first arrives back in Asgard after like three years yet none of the other long-lived Asgardians managed to do or say anything (aside from explained-in-story Heimdall and perhaps Lady Sif who is notably absent) or at the very least figure out that the All-Father was completely out-of-character. The Grandmaster being a fop who never once really commands fear of his standing and is just another oddball space authority; Jeff Goldblum at his Jeff Goldblumiest is nice but offers little to me. And, again, Asgard grousing as Hela feels as wanna-be-complex-but-head-scratchingly-evil-to-be-evil as Loki was in the first Thor.

It's definitely the best Thor movie, no question, and it's a great movie. I understand why people have it as one of their favorites and have no intentions of paying word against that. It just... it comes up empty for me is all.

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