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TopicIs anyone blocking you?
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02/15/21 9:16:09 AM
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MrMallard posted...
Joestar. I was critical of her in a thread about people who talk down to her or how she has no time for people who don't respect her, in which it seemed like she was digging herself into this big hole where anyone who wasn't emphatically on her side was being toxic.

I think the argument was about how she treats people vs how they treat her, and it was stuff like "we haven't necessarily seen eye to eye in the past, and/or we seem to be drifting apart on some topics, but I can meet you halfway on some things and I'd like to actually discuss these other aspects of what you're saying" vs "I feel like I'm being gaslit every time I'm around you, you've always treated me really bad, you challenge everything I say and I'm going to block you to save myself the hassle of dealing with you".

I'm sure she's had bad experiences with trolls and bad faith posters and the like, but I've been a part of a discord where the lengths she would go to talk about herself and bring every topic back around to herself led to people refusing to post in protest. It led to one guy simping 120% for her and alienating himself from the rest of the chat.

I've seen the way she handles any pushback over that sort of thing, at least how she handled it 2-3 years ago - before the couple-posting with smoliske and all that, before the manic posting on CE really kicked off. That doesn't sound very nice on my behalf, and fwiw I do wish for her to have a continued sense of security with the people she spends time with, but I'm critical of her in what I intend to be a constructive way despite that. The fact that I'm tip-toeing around it despite the fact that she blocked me is hopefully communicating that - I'm not trying to shitstir here.

So I commented to that effect. That while I'm sure she's had bad experiences with shitty people, she seems to be cutting out a lot of people who don't necessarily dislike her - who are outright trying to build bridges, just without conceding everything they have to say. That reasonable criticism, made in good faith, isn't an attack on her so much as it's people who have come to an impasse between them and are trying to fix that, or people who see excessively manic posting as potentially harmful to her mental health and her relationships with others.

I'm a bit of a people pleaser, I like to bring people together. So while I was being critical, I was trying to spare her feelings and address reasonable criticism she had been writing off.

I get a flippant reply that sums up to me being a hater trying to stifle her. Maybe it was a bit more generous than that, it's been a while since this happened, but it definitely came across as "kthanxbai" when I made a second post trying to elaborate on reasonable points of criticism from people who seemed to be making them in good faith - to which she made a pissy "bye-bye, you're blocked now <3" message before blocking me.

Like at this point, it's literally Joestar. She made topics with Smoliske that were just them posting back and forth like a Brangelina-type couple until people complained about them being obnoxious, at which point it was time to come out about being harassed by CE neckbeards. I didn't realise people in our mutual discord were refusing to post in protest of her monopolizing every conversation she was in - out of a basic sense of decency, I tried to cultivate a positive space in that server in the hopes that people would return. I did that for what felt like weeks, because I like it when people get along. I grew to become critical of her, but it was genuinely coming from a good place and I saw people who seemed to be coming from a similar place in that thread. Now I realise that's just how she is.

I hear she's a radfem now, so that's her business. I try to be civil about her, but the second she starts introducing points about trans women being male invaders, I'm gonna start busting chops.

Also I changed my signature to mention crackers and/or mayonnaise in relation to white people, and someone got upset at me for having anti-white slurs in my sig and blocked me. I feel like he would have gotten suspended ages ago, but I couldn't tell you because of the block lmao.

Lmao wow wasn't expecting a wall of text itt

You right about joe doe
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