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Topic	Did Joel make the right choice at the end of TLOU? spoilers
UnfairRepresent 02/09/21 8:50:53 PM #77:	Darmik posted... That's not comparable because those people can't help having those organs. The Fireflies are in control of their actions and are making the decision for both Joel and Ellie. Ellie can't help being the key to the cure. And they didn't make the decision for Joel. Just Ellie. But the point that you're too cowardly to concede despite knowing you're wrong is "Lying to your daughter and commiting mass murder of innocent people to doom the Earth is the act of a loving father. No Father would ever allow a daughter to die under any circumstances!" is complete nonsense. hence why you keep having to say "nonono, ignore all context, ignore the plot, ignore the scenario. Just in the abstract moral dilemma of the Trolley problem. That's it." to justify it Your comparisons consistently fail at including this. Fireflies were going to kill Ellie without her consent. Saying "well she would have consented" isn't a defense. It's something psychopaths say. If they had the moral high ground she would have consented plain and simple. Well she did consent. But yeah I fully agree that Fireflies wouldn't have cared and didn't care. None of that excuses what Joel did. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:950469319] in Did Joel m... [t:79284271]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote> That's not comparable because those people can't help having those organs. The Fireflies are in control of their actions and are making the decision for both Joel and Ellie.</quote> Ellie can't help being the key to the cure. And they didn't make the decision for Joel. Just Ellie. But the point that you're too cowardly to concede despite knowing you're wrong is "Lying to your daughter and commiting mass murder of innocent people to doom the Earth is the act of a loving father. No Father would ever allow a daughter to die under any circumstances!" is complete nonsense. hence why you keep having to say "nonono, ignore all context, ignore the plot, ignore the scenario. Just in the abstract moral dilemma of the Trolley problem. That's it." to justify it <quote> Your comparisons consistently fail at including this. Fireflies were going to kill Ellie without her consent. Saying "well she would have consented" isn't a defense. It's something psychopaths say. If they had the moral high ground she would have consented plain and simple.</quote>Well she did consent. But yeah I fully agree that Fireflies wouldn't have cared and didn't care. None of that excuses what Joel did. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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