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Topic	Did Joel make the right choice at the end of TLOU? spoilers
Darmik 02/09/21 7:18:59 PM #50:	UnfairRepresent posted... Marlene blatantly knows what Joel feels about Ellie and shows him sympathy and mercy twice instead of killing him As a result she died And Joel is the one who didn't treat Ellie as a person, violating her wishes and lying to her so he could be happy. He used Ellie like a toy for his own pleasure, not as a human being he respected Nobody treated her like a person. That's the point. There's a reason they rushed her to surgery before she could even wake up. Both Joel and the Fireflies robbed her of her choice. Both end up paying the price for it. UnfairRepresent posted... The people in Town wouldn't know who did it or why (if they even knew it wasnt zombies) and the fireflies would be long gone Zombies don't use golf clubs. Even then if murdered everyone and got away with it how would Abby and the gang handle that? They struggled enough with what they did as is. Pretending they were doing the right thing and pursued justice is why they were all on board. Also ~~if the plot continued to play the same but Ellie was murdered ironically Abby would also end up dead. Her act of mercy towards Ellie ends up saving her in the long term.~~ UnfairRepresent posted... I'm critical of this too Joel's actions were very selfish for a father He violated his daughters wishes, lies to her, murders her friends and dooms humanity Thats not what someone who loves their daughter would do Joel is more selfish than that Ellie made him happy and got him out of depression. For the first time in years he had a reason to live again, and the world was going to take it away from him... again Joel's actions were pure egotism, selfish and evil "The world fucked me so I fucked the world" Not the actions of a loving father, the actions more akin to an addict who needed a fix. He couldn't go back to that emptiness that consumed him for decades, so he did what was good for him and fuck everyone else He was robbed of the chance of having that conversation with Ellie. Any father who loves their daughter would do anything to save their daughter from death. From his perspective she had no choice. He wasn't wrong. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:950466190] in Did Joel m... [t:79284271]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Marlene blatantly knows what Joel feels about Ellie and shows him sympathy and mercy twice instead of killing him As a result she died And Joel is the one who didn't treat Ellie as a person, violating her wishes and lying to her so he could be happy. He used Ellie like a toy for his own pleasure, not as a human being he respected</quote> Nobody treated her like a person. That's the point. There's a reason they rushed her to surgery before she could even wake up. Both Joel and the Fireflies robbed her of her choice. Both end up paying the price for it. UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>The people in Town wouldn't know who did it or why (if they even knew it wasnt zombies) and the fireflies would be long gone</quote> Zombies don't use golf clubs. Even then if murdered everyone and got away with it how would Abby and the gang handle that? They struggled enough with what they did as is. Pretending they were doing the right thing and pursued justice is why they were all on board. Also if the plot continued to play the same but Ellie was murdered ironically Abby would also end up dead. Her act of mercy towards Ellie ends up saving her in the long term. UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>I'm critical of this too Joel's actions were very selfish for a father He violated his daughters wishes, lies to her, murders her friends and dooms humanity Thats not what someone who loves their daughter would do Joel is more selfish than that Ellie made him happy and got him out of depression. For the first time in years he had a reason to live again, and the world was going to take it away from him... again Joel's actions were pure egotism, selfish and evil "The world fucked me so I fucked the world" Not the actions of a loving father, the actions more akin to an addict who needed a fix. He couldn't go back to that emptiness that consumed him for decades, so he did what was good for him and fuck everyone else</quote> He was robbed of the chance of having that conversation with Ellie. Any father who loves their daughter would do anything to save their daughter from death. From his perspective she had no choice. He wasn't wrong. --- Kind Regards, Darmik</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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