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Inviso 02/08/21 12:23:03 PM #386:	Mega Mana First Scene That Comes to Mind: Cardboard tunnelling with Cassie This is a tough film to write up. There is so much to enjoy in the moment as things happen on screen. There is great humor, earnestness, superheroics, running gags, characters, and just a surprisingly breezy film for how many different characters and factions it is juggling throughout. Scott, his family, Hope, Hank, Foster, Ghost, the FBI, Walton Goggins, and X-Con Security Consultants. The movie looks fantastic with Ghost's afterimages, the seamless size-changing throughout, the quantum realm. There's a great deal of hope and 'never give up' attitude especially with the twist that the superpowered 'villain' of the film, Ghost, is just trying to survive with Bill Foster doing everything he can to make sure that happens without anyone else getting badly hurt. It feels somehow too breezy, though. Everything comes together over a nice cohesive throughline, and it's impossible to truly wrap one's head around the mechanics of size-changing (where does the weight go from the cars and building when shrunk? How was Hank able to get to Janet at the quantum level just in terms of location? What happens to Ghost without the quantum energy Scott's harvesting when he comes back five years later? Will Randall Park learn close up magic?). It's magic that doesn't seem to have much in the way of rules, but it's fun and they have fun with it. The special effects are incredible throughout. P.S. I just wanted to make a quick note. Right after re-watching this movie, I saw Justice League in my recommended movies for free and decided to watch for the first time. Two scenes in, I had to quit. Ant-Man & the Wasp is like C-Level in terms of MCU importance and in-between both Infinity movies as well as Captain Marvel. It's budget and special effects are probably not the best of the best at the company. How then does Ant-Man and the Wasp look one-hundred times better than Warner Bros. tentpole massive budget juggernaut to compete with the Avengers after only two scenes?! Two?! HOW DOES THE MOVIE START WITH THE SUPERMAN LIP THING?! WHY DOES THE GOTHAM FIGHT LOOK LIKE WORSE USE OF GREEN SCREEN THAN THE ROOFTOP ON THE ROOM?! WHY ARE THESE THE FIRST TWO SCENES YOU PRESENT YOUR AUDIENCE?!?! Red13n A lot of my enjoyment from the original Ant-Man was that aside from moments towards the end, it strayed further from the typical MCU genre. Ant-Man and the Wasp unfortunately just moves into more generic action filled comic book movie. Not bad territory, but Ghost is never a compelling enough villain to really drive the story beyond generic. Too far into the irrational character to ever be a character that feels compelling. Beyond that, we go in and tie up pretty much all the loose ends hanging from the first movie, get enough size jokes to go stale, and then just get the setup for Endgame, which was the real goal of the movie. ZenOfThunder I closed my eyes trying to remember the villain for this one for like 30 seconds and all I could picture was stupid-ass Sonny Burch with his stupid-ass cowboy hat and terrible southern accent. The actual villain is Ghost who was cool but this movie was just kinda "hey give us some more money before Endgame thnx." SHOULD HAVE BEEN EDGAR WRIGHT. CoolCly Fun heist movie! I love that this movie did not try to make the stakes extraordinarily large and kept it to a pretty small scale fight between thieves, with some emotional stakes added in trying to recover Hanks wife. I also am a HUGE fan of the villain triangle when theres two separate villains who are both antagonistic towards the protagonist, and just as antagonistic towards eachother. Its a pretty uncommon dynamic but I always enjoy it. Its too bad Ghost is a bit lacking character wise, but her moveset is pretty fun in how it interacts with Antmans. Quantum Lawrence Fishburne is fun. I actually thought there was going to be a twist where he had been manipulating Ghost into doing what he wants, and maybe was even responsible for her parents deaths and her condition, which would have been a pretty generic twist. But then he just turns out to be a nice guy who is genuinely concerned about her well being, and even pushes back strongly when she wants to turn to genuine villainy. Overall good movie! Just like the first Ant-Man, I feel like this movie doesnt go far enough to be a great movie it needs some kind of extra depth that isnt there that a lot of other MCU movies pull off. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950416062] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Mega Mana First Scene That Comes to Mind: Cardboard tunnelling with Cassie This is a tough film to write up. There is so much to enjoy in the moment as things happen on screen. There is great humor, earnestness, superheroics, running gags, characters, and just a surprisingly breezy film for how many different characters and factions it is juggling throughout. Scott, his family, Hope, Hank, Foster, Ghost, the FBI, Walton Goggins, and X-Con Security Consultants. The movie looks fantastic with Ghost's afterimages, the seamless size-changing throughout, the quantum realm. There's a great deal of hope and 'never give up' attitude especially with the twist that the superpowered 'villain' of the film, Ghost, is just trying to survive with Bill Foster doing everything he can to make sure that happens without anyone else getting badly hurt. It feels somehow too breezy, though. Everything comes together over a nice cohesive throughline, and it's impossible to truly wrap one's head around the mechanics of size-changing (where does the weight go from the cars and building when shrunk? How was Hank able to get to Janet at the quantum level just in terms of location? What happens to Ghost without the quantum energy Scott's harvesting when he comes back five years later? Will Randall Park learn close up magic?). It's magic that doesn't seem to have much in the way of rules, but it's fun and they have fun with it. The special effects are incredible throughout. P.S. I just wanted to make a quick note. Right after re-watching this movie, I saw Justice League in my recommended movies for free and decided to watch for the first time. Two scenes in, I had to quit. Ant-Man & the Wasp is like C-Level in terms of MCU importance and in-between both Infinity movies as well as Captain Marvel. It's budget and special effects are probably not the best of the best at the company. How then does Ant-Man and the Wasp look one-hundred times better than Warner Bros. tentpole massive budget juggernaut to compete with the Avengers after only two scenes?! Two?! HOW DOES THE MOVIE START WITH THE SUPERMAN LIP THING?! WHY DOES THE GOTHAM FIGHT LOOK LIKE WORSE USE OF GREEN SCREEN THAN THE ROOFTOP ON THE ROOM?! WHY ARE THESE THE FIRST TWO SCENES YOU PRESENT YOUR AUDIENCE?!?! Red13n A lot of my enjoyment from the original Ant-Man was that aside from moments towards the end, it strayed further from the typical MCU genre. Ant-Man and the Wasp unfortunately just moves into more generic action filled comic book movie. Not bad territory, but Ghost is never a compelling enough villain to really drive the story beyond generic. Too far into the irrational character to ever be a character that feels compelling. Beyond that, we go in and tie up pretty much all the loose ends hanging from the first movie, get enough size jokes to go stale, and then just get the setup for Endgame, which was the real goal of the movie. ZenOfThunder I closed my eyes trying to remember the villain for this one for like 30 seconds and all I could picture was stupid-ass Sonny Burch with his stupid-ass cowboy hat and terrible southern accent. The actual villain is Ghost who was cool but this movie was just kinda "hey give us some more money before Endgame thnx." SHOULD HAVE BEEN EDGAR WRIGHT. CoolCly Fun heist movie! I love that this movie did not try to make the stakes extraordinarily large and kept it to a pretty small scale fight between thieves, with some emotional stakes added in trying to recover Hanks wife. I also am a HUGE fan of the villain triangle when theres two separate villains who are both antagonistic towards the protagonist, and just as antagonistic towards eachother. Its a pretty uncommon dynamic but I always enjoy it. Its too bad Ghost is a bit lacking character wise, but her moveset is pretty fun in how it interacts with Antmans. Quantum Lawrence Fishburne is fun. I actually thought there was going to be a twist where he had been manipulating Ghost into doing what he wants, and maybe was even responsible for her parents deaths and her condition, which would have been a pretty generic twist. But then he just turns out to be a nice guy who is genuinely concerned about her well being, and even pushes back strongly when she wants to turn to genuine villainy. Overall good movie! Just like the first Ant-Man, I feel like this movie doesnt go far enough to be a great movie it needs some kind of extra depth that isnt there that a lot of other MCU movies pull off. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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