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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 364: Absolute Proof (Citation Needed)
Lightning Strikes 02/08/21 8:26:27 AM #110:	red13n posted... Votals say that both candidates brought in a large contingent of voters that would not otherwise vote. Trump likely had some "likely Republican voters" that would not vote for him, but he also brought in a large chunk of voters that voted straight R that otherwise would not have voted. It is very possible Republicans do not perform as well without Trump on the ballot(See: Georgia). Yeah but isnt it just that Trumps turnout increase was a counter to Bidens, as a natural consequence of such a huge rise in turnout? All those get out the vote campaigns werent only being seen by one side. Well never really know though. All we can really say for sure is that Trump seriously underperformed the Republicans in 2016, when there wasnt really a huge difference between Hillary and down-ballot democrats. By comparison 2020 was closer, but Trump still did worse than the Republicans on the whole - he still underperformed the party nationally more than any other candidate in the past 20 years. And of course, 2018 only happened because of Trump anyway. At the end of the day the Republicans are doing worse now than they were before Trump became President. He seems to have hurt more than he helped. Corrik7 posted... Was that the situation here? I mean, I am pro limiting guns, but this doesn't seem like the situation so not much worth bringing up in regards to it. Its more that when you address those top level issues stuff like this doesnt happen. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:950409530] in Politics C... [t:79282723]...</cite> <quote>red13n posted... </cite> <quote>Votals say that both candidates brought in a large contingent of voters that would not otherwise vote. Trump likely had some "likely Republican voters" that would not vote for him, but he also brought in a large chunk of voters that voted straight R that otherwise would not have voted. It is very possible Republicans do not perform as well without Trump on the ballot(See: Georgia).</quote> Yeah but isnt it just that Trumps turnout increase was a counter to Bidens, as a natural consequence of such a huge rise in turnout? All those get out the vote campaigns werent only being seen by one side. Well never really know though. All we can really say for sure is that Trump seriously underperformed the Republicans in 2016, when there wasnt really a huge difference between Hillary and down-ballot democrats. By comparison 2020 was closer, but Trump still did worse than the Republicans on the whole - he still underperformed the party nationally more than any other candidate in the past 20 years. And of course, 2018 only happened because of Trump anyway. At the end of the day the Republicans are doing worse now than they were before Trump became President. He seems to have hurt more than he helped. Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>Was that the situation here? I mean, I am pro limiting guns, but this doesn't seem like the situation so not much worth bringing up in regards to it.</quote> Its more that when you address those top level issues stuff like this doesnt happen. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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