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Topic	Is CE for or against $15 dollar minimum wage?
ssjevot 02/04/21 12:21:22 AM #35:	Shablagoo posted... Is GMI distinct from UBI in any way or just an alternate term for it? The issue with a UBI (especially alongside automation) is that it continues the wage relation in a new form without addressing the inherent contradictions of class in capitalist society. Essentially, you would be continuing the working class' reliance on wages while also taking away the primary means they have to negotiate those wages and the meager concessions they have gained: their labor. The need for working class labor to make this entire economy run is the most important bargaining chip working people have. A UBI alongside the loss of most wage labor due to automation would only cement inequality, rather than lead to a more egalitarian outcome. That said, its still obviously a good temporary solution that would improve the lives of many people. Im just saying its not a long-term one. I don't care about theory or idealism. There is no evidence or reason to believe the stuff you just said can actually happen or provide a superior quality of life for poor people so I honestly don't care. Especially since you worship capitalist countries with massive income inequality suggesting your words are meaningless platitudes. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:950259193] in Is CE for ... [t:79276357]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Is GMI distinct from UBI in any way or just an alternate term for it? The issue with a UBI (especially alongside automation) is that it continues the wage relation in a new form without addressing the inherent contradictions of class in capitalist society. Essentially, you would be continuing the working class' reliance on wages while also taking away the primary means they have to negotiate those wages and the meager concessions they have gained: their labor. The need for working class labor to make this entire economy run is the most important bargaining chip working people have. A UBI alongside the loss of most wage labor due to automation would only cement inequality, rather than lead to a more egalitarian outcome. That said, its still obviously a good temporary solution that would improve the lives of many people. Im just saying its not a long-term one.</quote> I don't care about theory or idealism. There is no evidence or reason to believe the stuff you just said can actually happen or provide a superior quality of life for poor people so I honestly don't care. Especially since you worship capitalist countries with massive income inequality suggesting your words are meaningless platitudes. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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