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Topic	How can people hate on tlou2?
Romulox28 02/03/21 9:55:30 AM #111:	so i love to shitpost about tlou2 but here is my serious take. after this i'll go back to talking about how there are no big boobs in TLOU2. i think the hate for tlou2 comes from two sources: tlou2 very overtly deals with topical social issues in a way that i have never seen before in a big budget, mass market video game. what ive usually seen in AAA games is that if a character is gay (for example) its normally just expressed through some throwaway dialogue or it amounts to a tiny little subplot. in TLOU2 it's very obvious that the writer wanted to make some commentary on hot-button social issues (homosexuality, trans issues, antisemitism etc). if you are one of the whiners who is really sensitive about "SJW" shit then TLOU2 will make you whine more and that's by design I think that video games as a medium have not really matured as much as people want to think. what i see is there is this sort of transactional approach TLOU2 haters have when they approach the game, they were expecting this plot where they'd get to play as Joel again and fight the bad guys with Ellie etc. Instead they got a new direction with the plot and new characters (even though Joel is still a central character if you play the game). I think this kind of reflects how gaming as a medium hasn't really progressed - the writers want people to consume the game as an artistic work, but then a large subset of the players are like "i paid you my $60, i want more zombie shanking adventures with Joel. wtf is this shit" my personal take is that I think it's a good game but not amazing. gameplay wise i thought it was fine, some cool set pieces but I thought the human encounters could have been improved with better AI/stealth options. story-wise, i really liked the Ellie/Abbey take but thought it could have been done better. The Abbey part was way too long imo. it really drags towards the end & lot of it felt like the writer was making it up as he went along (i.e. that whole hospital part felt like a sidequest). I found it hard to care about the side characters since most characters except Ellie and Abbey were pretty flat. I also disliked the inclusion of the Cult (forgot their name) - I thought they were kind of cheesy and didn't make a ton of sense, they felt kind of like a plot device to me. overall a pretty cool game, if there is a ps5 patch i'll probably replay it in ng+ and skip the cutscenes. --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG <cite>Romulox28 posted [p:950230644] in How can pe... [t:79273473]...</cite> <quote>so i love to shitpost about tlou2 but here is my serious take. after this i'll go back to talking about how there are no big boobs in TLOU2. i think the hate for tlou2 comes from two sources: tlou2 very overtly deals with topical social issues in a way that i have never seen before in a big budget, mass market video game. what ive usually seen in AAA games is that if a character is gay (for example) its normally just expressed through some throwaway dialogue or it amounts to a tiny little subplot. in TLOU2 it's very obvious that the writer wanted to make some commentary on hot-button social issues (homosexuality, trans issues, antisemitism etc). if you are one of the whiners who is really sensitive about "SJW" shit then TLOU2 will make you whine more and that's by designI think that video games as a medium have not really matured as much as people want to think. what i see is there is this sort of transactional approach TLOU2 haters have when they approach the game, they were expecting this plot where they'd get to play as Joel again and fight the bad guys with Ellie etc. Instead they got a new direction with the plot and new characters (even though Joel is still a central character if you play the game). I think this kind of reflects how gaming as a medium hasn't really progressed - the writers want people to consume the game as an artistic work, but then a large subset of the players are like "i paid you my $60, i want more zombie shanking adventures with Joel. wtf is this shit" my personal take is that I think it's a good game but not amazing. gameplay wise i thought it was fine, some cool set pieces but I thought the human encounters could have been improved with better AI/stealth options. story-wise, i really liked the Ellie/Abbey take but thought it could have been done better. The Abbey part was way too long imo. it really drags towards the end & lot of it felt like the writer was making it up as he went along (i.e. that whole hospital part felt like a sidequest). I found it hard to care about the side characters since most characters except Ellie and Abbey were pretty flat. I also disliked the inclusion of the Cult (forgot their name) - I thought they were kind of cheesy and didn't make a ton of sense, they felt kind of like a plot device to me. overall a pretty cool game, if there is a ps5 patch i'll probably replay it in ng+ and skip the cutscenes. --- https://imgur.com/LhwwG</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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