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Inviso 02/02/21 3:07:53 PM #56:	Illuminatusbubu I honestly cannot remember a thing about this movie until I did a rewatch for this project. Then after the rewatch, Im still blank about it. I think Disney also tries to forget about its existence or distances itself from this film when they cast Ruffalo as the Hulk instead of Norton. Lopen I'm honestly not sure you can make a movie about The Hulk compelling. Too much of what makes the character work is all about what's going on in his head, which I'm skeptical really translates to film very well even if it can in comics. That's not to say he can't work with some other characters to play off-- The Avengers and Thor Ragnarok both use him really well. But I think even if we had the better guy from the later films playing Bruce Banner (though the guy here wasn't awful) this movie was doomed for mediocrity and irrelevance, no matter what the plot was, if you're constrained by "the only hero dude in it is The Hulk" as your premise it's just not gonna work on film. Prove me wrong. But at least it's better than Hulk 2003. What a trainwreck that one was. That may be too generous-- I probably wouldn't fall asleep on a trainwreck. MetalDK Movie might be a tier above if it actually felt like an MCU film. Norton wasn't bad in this, and it wasn't until Civil War where another character reappeared in Ross. Paratroopa1 A rather awkward movie, given the whole casting switch from Edward Norton to Mark Ruffalo (a good change) makes this film feel not particularly connected to the rest of the MCU - it feels outdated and weird, from a different era of films. It's not all that bad though - it's watchable. I like that they didn't do a Hulk origin story here (presumably the 2003 film already had that covered) and I like how they use Hulk as both a horror movie monster and also a superhero. I think the bottling factory was a cool place to set an action sequence. I like when the villain whose name I don't remember is just casually like 'yeah gimme that Hulk juice." Uh, that's about it, I didn't rewatch this one because it's not on Disney+ and I couldn't be assed. I expect this to be one of the bottom two films, along with Thor: The Dark World. Red13n I always forget the post credits scene gives this movie more MCU tie-along than I mentally give it credit for, but I'm always going to consider this to be more MCU-adjacent than a direct MCU film. While this movie mostly spares us the comic book movie trope of an origin, the plot tends to jump from point to point with little room to breathe and take much of it in. The characters inevitably all run from place to place, the plot continually takes a backseat, and stuff gets smashed. The MCU is ultimately better for recognizing that there is a Hulk while pretending this movie doesn't exist. Snake5555555555 A weirdly disconnected and disjointed film that stands apart from the rest of the MCU. Its biggest problem in the context of MCU of how little it connects to the overall bigger picture. The thing is, I think I like Ed Norton Hulk better than Ruffalo, but this unfortunate mess of casting and ambiguity as to where it stands as a sequel does little to help a film that plays it safe just as Iron Man was proving what the next generation of superhero films were going to be like. Hulk feels like a remnant of the past, dated upon release, more akin to Spider-Man 3 and complete misses like Daredevil, failing to capture what can make the Hulk a compelling character. It is inessential and almost non-canon by this point, and it just does not stand-up to future entries. ZenOfThunder I barely even consider this canon, it kinda sucks. Edward Norton should stick to Wes Anderson movies. Cybat I will freely admit that I am a big fan of the MCU, and of Marvel (and comic book movies) in general. I do genuinely like all of the movies on this list. That said, something still has to be last, and it wasnt exactly hard to nail that decision down. This movie admittedly suffered a lot when it was released from being so close to Ang Lees earlier attempt, but even so it doesnt have a whole lot going for it other than Tim Roth having a good time. (Although it was nice to see an actual smash-filled climactic fight after whatever the hell it was that we got from Lee.) I do feel a little bad for Tim Blake Nelson who never got to come back and be the Leader, but I guess you never know with all the Disney+ stuff theyre working on. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:950202192] in Board 8 Ra... [t:79272506]...</cite> <quote>Illuminatusbubu I honestly cannot remember a thing about this movie until I did a rewatch for this project. Then after the rewatch, Im still blank about it. I think Disney also tries to forget about its existence or distances itself from this film when they cast Ruffalo as the Hulk instead of Norton. Lopen I'm honestly not sure you can make a movie about The Hulk compelling. Too much of what makes the character work is all about what's going on in his head, which I'm skeptical really translates to film very well even if it can in comics. That's not to say he can't work with some other characters to play off-- The Avengers and Thor Ragnarok both use him really well. But I think even if we had the better guy from the later films playing Bruce Banner (though the guy here wasn't awful) this movie was doomed for mediocrity and irrelevance, no matter what the plot was, if you're constrained by "the only hero dude in it is The Hulk" as your premise it's just not gonna work on film. Prove me wrong. But at least it's better than Hulk 2003. What a trainwreck that one was. That may be too generous-- I probably wouldn't fall asleep on a trainwreck. MetalDK Movie might be a tier above if it actually felt like an MCU film. Norton wasn't bad in this, and it wasn't until Civil War where another character reappeared in Ross. Paratroopa1 A rather awkward movie, given the whole casting switch from Edward Norton to Mark Ruffalo (a good change) makes this film feel not particularly connected to the rest of the MCU - it feels outdated and weird, from a different era of films. It's not all that bad though - it's watchable. I like that they didn't do a Hulk origin story here (presumably the 2003 film already had that covered) and I like how they use Hulk as both a horror movie monster and also a superhero. I think the bottling factory was a cool place to set an action sequence. I like when the villain whose name I don't remember is just casually like 'yeah gimme that Hulk juice." Uh, that's about it, I didn't rewatch this one because it's not on Disney+ and I couldn't be assed. I expect this to be one of the bottom two films, along with Thor: The Dark World. Red13n I always forget the post credits scene gives this movie more MCU tie-along than I mentally give it credit for, but I'm always going to consider this to be more MCU-adjacent than a direct MCU film. While this movie mostly spares us the comic book movie trope of an origin, the plot tends to jump from point to point with little room to breathe and take much of it in. The characters inevitably all run from place to place, the plot continually takes a backseat, and stuff gets smashed. The MCU is ultimately better for recognizing that there is a Hulk while pretending this movie doesn't exist. Snake5555555555 A weirdly disconnected and disjointed film that stands apart from the rest of the MCU. Its biggest problem in the context of MCU of how little it connects to the overall bigger picture. The thing is, I think I like Ed Norton Hulk better than Ruffalo, but this unfortunate mess of casting and ambiguity as to where it stands as a sequel does little to help a film that plays it safe just as Iron Man was proving what the next generation of superhero films were going to be like. Hulk feels like a remnant of the past, dated upon release, more akin to Spider-Man 3 and complete misses like Daredevil, failing to capture what can make the Hulk a compelling character. It is inessential and almost non-canon by this point, and it just does not stand-up to future entries. ZenOfThunder I barely even consider this canon, it kinda sucks. Edward Norton should stick to Wes Anderson movies. Cybat I will freely admit that I am a big fan of the MCU, and of Marvel (and comic book movies) in general. I do genuinely like all of the movies on this list. That said, something still has to be last, and it wasnt exactly hard to nail that decision down. This movie admittedly suffered a lot when it was released from being so close to Ang Lees earlier attempt, but even so it doesnt have a whole lot going for it other than Tim Roth having a good time. (Although it was nice to see an actual smash-filled climactic fight after whatever the hell it was that we got from Lee.) I do feel a little bad for Tim Blake Nelson who never got to come back and be the Leader, but I guess you never know with all the Disney+ stuff theyre working on. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. 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